ChetLemon77 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, RagahRagah said: I am torn on that. I figure someone else has to take some responsibility but if it's all JR's call then there is really nothing anyone can do. Don't get me wrong...I definitely want a SP addition before April. However,assuming there's no major regression in Lopez (hopefully, maybe even some progress gained with Katz), is starting the year with him in the 5th slot the worst thing? Granted, I'd rather push my luck with another option, but because JR isn't seemingly willing to do what seems obvious, I think we could be a lot more worse off, even for a true contender. I was mildly impressed with his 2020 return from injury. Mildly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, fathom said: Stoney also saying Sox don’t have plans to add another starter at this time https://mobile.twitter.com/stevestone/status/1354618809194188801 So some fun facts about our rotation now that it’s final per Stone: Cease will be our #4 starter and is coming off a 6.36 FIP season where he ranked in the bottom 5th percentile for xwOBA Lopez will be our #5 starter to open the season and is coming off a 7.63 FIP year where he ranked in the bottom 13th percentile for xwOBA Kopech will be our #6 starter and has not pitched in a professional game in 875 days and will be on a strict innings limit Stiever will be our #7 starter and has a total of 6.1 innings above A+ in which he put up a 12.35 FIP while showing underwhelming stuff What could go wrong here? Edited January 28, 2021 by Chicago White Sox 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChetLemon77 said: Don't get me wrong...I definitely want a SP addition before April. However,assuming there's no major regression in Lopez (hopefully, maybe even some progress gained with Katz), is starting the year with him in the 5th slot the worst thing? Granted, I'd rather push my luck with another option, but because JR isn't seemingly willing to do what seems obvious, I think we could be a lot more worse off, even for a true contender. I was mildly impressed with his 2020 return from injury. Mildly. Do you realize how bad Lopez was last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChetLemon77 said: Don't get me wrong...I definitely want a SP addition before April. However,assuming there's no major regression in Lopez (hopefully, maybe even some progress gained with Katz), is starting the year with him in the 5th slot the worst thing? Granted, I'd rather push my luck with another option, but because JR isn't seemingly willing to do what seems obvious, I think we could be a lot more worse off, even for a true contender. I was mildly impressed with his 2020 return from injury. Mildly. Regression? What??? Lopez was absolutely awful last year. Us being stuck with him in the rotation would be awful as-is. If he regresses further? LOL God help us all. Edited January 28, 2021 by RagahRagah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Well the money is all gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, ChetLemon77 said: Don't get me wrong...I definitely want a SP addition before April. However,assuming there's no major regression in Lopez (hopefully, maybe even some progress gained with Katz), is starting the year with him in the 5th slot the worst thing? Granted, I'd rather push my luck with another option, but because JR isn't seemingly willing to do what seems obvious, I think we could be a lot more worse off, even for a true contender. I was mildly impressed with his 2020 return from injury. Mildly. Is it possible for Lopez to regress from Schaumburg to Naperville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, ChetLemon77 said: Don't get me wrong...I definitely want a SP addition before April. However,assuming there's no major regression in Lopez (hopefully, maybe even some progress gained with Katz), is starting the year with him in the 5th slot the worst thing? Granted, I'd rather push my luck with another option, but because JR isn't seemingly willing to do what seems obvious, I think we could be a lot more worse off, even for a true contender. I was mildly impressed with his 2020 return from injury. Mildly. Yes Lopez is awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT On Hendriks! I mean, it's 54 million, people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: So some fun facts about our rotation now that it’s final per Stone: Cease will be our #4 starter and is coming off a 6.36 FIP season where he ranked in the bottom 5th percentile for xwOBA Lopez will be our #5 starter to open the season and is coming off a 7.63 FIP year where he ranked in the bottom 13th percentile for xwOBA Kopech will be our #6 starter and has not pitched in a professional game in 875 days and will be on a strict innings limit Stiever will be our #7 starter and has a total of 6.1 innings above A+ in which he put up a 12.35 FIP while showing underwhelming stuff What could go wrong here? Well at least Lambert seems to be healthy. So does that make him our #8 starter? Also, Cade McClure is getting some positive talk. Not sure if the sox still have any plans for him as a starter but could be a bullpen piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: Well the money is all gone. Remember that one season where they wasted like $25M on Alonso, Jay, & Herrera? That would have been enough for Paxton & Schwarber on one year deals right about now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Yes Lopez is awful They are literally gambling an entire season on Katz being our savior with all these young arms instead of spending a measly $6M or so to bring in another starter? It’s beyond mind-boggling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, smellysox said: Well at least Lambert seems to be healthy. So does that make him our #8 starter? Also, Cade McClure is getting some positive talk. Not sure if the sox still have any plans for him as a starter but could be a bullpen piece. I’m not sure they’re going to keep Lambert in a starter’s role. It’s much more likely Flores is the #8 starter which also isn’t great. I know McClure looked great at instructs but he’s another guy who will be on a tight innings limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: They are literally gambling an entire season on Katz being our savior with all these young arms instead of spending a measly $6M or so to bring in another starter? It’s beyond mind-boggling. Katz and Codify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, SonofaRoache said: Katz and Codify. Who is using Codify that didn’t previously though? Hendriks & Giolito are already good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) On 1/21/2021 at 6:58 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Didn't really want to curb your enthusiasm. I'm just an even keel kind of guy. I love the enthusiasm which is why I want this thread to explode with new posts about it. It's not a trade so we wouldn't get the endless stream of who do we trade for him . But if I had to pick between the Burnes stuff and Cruz I'm more likely to believe Cruz is more attainable. I doubt either one happens. Last sentence. Edited January 28, 2021 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Beef carrying that water for Uncle Jerry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, RagahRagah said: On Hendriks! I mean, it's 54 million, people! The funny thing is its really not. Its gonna be 3/39 and dissolved cash over 10 years. This is my saddest day as a sox fan in years. I realky thought they would do at least a move or two for depth 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Beef carrying that water for Uncle Jerry! Nomar Mazara must be coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who is using Codify that didn’t previously though? Hendriks & Giolito are already good. I'm guessing Cease may be a candidate soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, smellysox said: Nomar Mazara must be coming. Or Carlos Rodon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, smellysox said: Nomar Mazara must be coming. Honestly, I’d be excited for a Mazara addition at this point. It’s clear they aren’t going to spend any real money and Nomar adds some OF depth for dirt cheap. Desperate times call for desperate measures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: Or Carlos Rodon? He’s going to become an ace for the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I'm guessing Cease may be a candidate soon. That would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: The funny thing is its really not. Its gonna be 3/39 and dissolved cash over 10 years. This is my saddest day as a sox fan in years. I realky thought they would do at least a move or two for depth Maybe you can relate to what I was saying yesterday then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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