ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Ok...what do we think it would take to get him? Colorado might as well trade him now that Arenado is gone. Taking Blackmon’s contract could reduce the level of prospects the Sox would have to to give up. Edited January 30, 2021 by YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Ok...what do we think it would take to get him? Colorado might as well trade him now that Arenado is gone. Taking Blackmon’s contract could reduce the level of prospects the Sox would have to to give up. Jerry isn’t taking on Blackmon deal. For goodness sake we won’t pay over 5 million for a starter we need. Offer 3 guys not named Kopech, Crotchet, or Vaughn and let’s get it done. They sold for money now they sell for younger prospects. I honestly think Kelley and a lesser SP could get it done if they are in rebuild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Al’s Cheesy Beef had tweeted that he will not be surprised if trade talks start up again with the Rockies for Marquez or Gray but than deleted the tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Al’s Cheesy Beef had tweeted that he will not be surprised if trade talks start up again with the Rockies for Marquez or Gray but than deleted the tweet. I saw that. I'd think Gray is more likely than Marquez and I don't think he'd be that expensive either. Worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Try everything in your power to land Bauer. When that doesn’t work, sign a depth piece to eat sone innings while you see what you have in Cease and Kopech. Then if need be, you make a deal at the deadline for somebody like Marquez. Unless, of course, you can get him now without giving up the big 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetLemon77 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said: Try everything in your power to land Bauer. When that doesn’t work, sign a depth piece to eat sone innings while you see what you have in Cease and Kopech. Then if need be, you make a deal at the deadline for somebody like Marquez. Unless, of course, you can get him now without giving up the big 3. Agreed. if you can get him now without giving up the big three, do it now. Don't wait until the price goes up & you half a half dozen other contenders circling at the deadline. I've had a feeling RH has one more significant deal left in him this off-season. Marquez has 3 years of club control remaining. Rick's type of guy... Edited January 30, 2021 by ChetLemon77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 If you want Marquez, you have to give up at least one of Vaughn/Kopech/Crochet, which the Sox aren't doing So if you want Marquez, you have to take on a bad contract (Blackmon), which the Sox aren't doing So if you're trading with the Rockies, it's probably Jon Gray (yuck) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: If you want Marquez, you have to give up at least one of Vaughn/Kopech/Crochet, which the Sox aren't doing So if you want Marquez, you have to take on a bad contract (Blackmon), which the Sox aren't doing So if you're trading with the Rockies, it's probably Jon Gray (yuck) might as well cross off crochet, would imagine it would take either Vaughn or Kopech, doubt crochet has as much value as either of those two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Ok...what do we think it would take to get him? Colorado might as well trade him now that Arenado is gone. Taking Blackmon’s contract could reduce the level of prospects the Sox would have to to give up. We are broke...we aren’t taking on Blackmon’s contract. Hell, we probably can’t afford Marquez’s $7.5M salary without Uncle Jerry declaring bankruptcy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ChetLemon77 said: Agreed. if you can get him now without giving up the big three, do it now. Don't wait until the price goes up & you half a half dozen other contenders circling at the deadline. I've had a feeling RH has one more significant deal left in him this off-season. Marquez has 3 years of club control remaining. Rick's type of guy... Just an FYI, but I think he has four years of control left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I don't think the sox are a fit here. They won't be willing to part with their mlb ready top3 (vaughn, kopech, crochet) and the rest of the system of the sox is just not high upside enough as a centerpiece. If the rockies don't get one of the top3 they at least need some very high upside young guys and they sox don't have much of that. I doubt the rockies want 22+yo to 40s and 45s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Marquez price point is going to be similar to Luis Castillo, but Gray is worth kicking the tires on just because we obviously need some more legit options other than relying on Lopez. Edited January 30, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I used to think the Sox weren’t a fit for Marquez, but after last night? Who knows. Man Rockies are garbage (yet find some amazing players) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just an FYI, but I think he has four years of control left. 3 according to baseball ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, manbearpuig said: 3 according to baseball ref. It’s 4 years. 2024 is a club option year, unless he has two top-3 Cy Young finishes, which would cause it to flip to a mutual option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Ok...what do we think it would take to get him? Colorado might as well trade him now that Arenado is gone. Taking Blackmon’s contract could reduce the level of prospects the Sox would have to to give up. Eloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Tanking makes sense for the rockies also because the padres and dodgers are going to be very good the next 3-4 years. Thus it might make sense to go for prospects who are a couple years away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: 3 according to baseball ref. He’s got a $16M club option for 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Which is where we’re going to struggle to find a deal that works. Kelley + Thompson + Bailey + Rodriguez doesn’t feel like enough to get a deal done and that’s probably the best package of prospects 20 & under we could put together (excluding Vera) to get a deal done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: He’s got a $16M club option for 2024 Ah ok didn't know that. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Omg id love marquez plz plz plz trade vaughn in a package for marquez then go and sign ozuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Which is where we’re going to struggle to find a deal that works. Kelley + Thompson + Bailey + Rodriguez doesn’t feel like enough to get a deal done and that’s probably the best package of prospects 20 & under we could put together (excluding Vera) to get a deal done. If that was the return for Giolito with three years left on his deal, how would you feel about your GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, iWiN4PreP said: Omg id love marquez plz plz plz trade vaughn in a package for marquez then go and sign ozuna $3 million —$22 million= - $19 million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, caulfield12 said: $3 million —$22 million= - $19 million So? I don’t buy the white sox have some arbitrary financial limit. Adding two stars for only 19m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: If that was the return for Giolito with three years left on his deal, how would you feel about your GM? Which is why is why I said we probably wouldn’t be able to get a deal, but the Rockies are one of the dumbest organizations so leaving a sliver of a chance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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