lostfan Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 It really blows my mind how there are still so many people there are who don't understand Foles is actually really bad. They will just say "he won a Super Bowl" like that means anything at all in terms of right now. Might as well bring up that Chip Kelly season too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 hours ago, lostfan said: It really blows my mind how there are still so many people there are who don't understand Foles is actually really bad. They will just say "he won a Super Bowl" like that means anything at all in terms of right now. Might as well bring up that Chip Kelly season too. Foles is a real bad starter - but as a backup - he is 100 percent okay. In fact, I would say he is a top quartile backup qb. He can step in for your above avg qb (who got hurt) and win you a game or two and keep the team afloat while you wait for the guy to get healthy. As a starter - below average, but I think there are teams who may grade him slightly better than that who discount his time with Jags (injured) and Bears (putrid oline, no real offseason) because they think in right system with protection he becomes a serviceable starter. I would say those people are wrong but I also think there are a few teams that might get desperate and convince themselves if injuries happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said: Foles is a real bad starter - but as a backup - he is 100 percent okay. In fact, I would say he is a top quartile backup qb. He can step in for your above avg qb (who got hurt) and win you a game or two and keep the team afloat while you wait for the guy to get healthy. As a starter - below average, but I think there are teams who may grade him slightly better than that who discount his time with Jags (injured) and Bears (putrid oline, no real offseason) because they think in right system with protection he becomes a serviceable starter. I would say those people are wrong but I also think there are a few teams that might get desperate and convince themselves if injuries happen. Sure, but ain't no backup worth the $24 million or whatever his salary is right now. I think last year people got all excited about him that they started pretending his career was much better than it was because he's not Trubisky (standard Chicago backup QB syndrome) only for him to end up starting and his extreme limitations became apparent (as in he could read the defense but couldn't evade a free rusher if he had a 15-yard head start) I just thought about how Pace gave up a 4th round pick to bail Jacksonville out of their obvious mistake and got mad all over again lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 One thing that really is amazing about football is it always seems that whatever your weakest position is will also be the one that gets the most injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Bears linebackers coach Bill McGovern worked with him during his time with the Giants when he had his best years so nice little reunion there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 This could be bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 It's always an eyebrow raiser when a CFO is made President of an organization. Davis promoted CFO Badain to President in 2015. Putting the head accounting exec in charge of strategy for an organization opens the door for fraud. When it's a private company like the Raiders, the risks of carrying that C-suite title is much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Feels like we are just in a countdown until “Teven Jenkins will start season on IR with back tightness” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 8:30 AM, bmags said: Feels like we are just in a countdown until “Teven Jenkins will start season on IR with back tightness” No more emo bmags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Fields is gonna be a monster. Not a doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I am pretty sure Jim Miller can't say Bears. He must say Chicago Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Fields is gonna be a monster. Not a doubt in my mind. He needs to start practicing this week with the first team. Nagy should have seen enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: He needs to start practicing this week with the first team. Nagy should have seen enough Nah - I like there plan very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I knew 12 years ago that J. Fields would eventually be a huge star for Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Fields has it. Bears signed jason peters so they finally made a move to add some much needed depth at tackle given all the injury issues they have had. He is old and way past his prime, but should be a good vet move for whenever Jenkins can start practicing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: Nah - I like there plan very much. He’s the best QB on the roster. Trotting Dalton out there is a waste of time, give Fields time to get timing and chemistry with 1s and stop delaying the inevitable. At this point I’m hoping someone comes calling for Dalton in a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Fields has it. Bears signed jason peters so they finally made a move to add some much needed depth at tackle given all the injury issues they have had. He is old and way past his prime, but should be a good vet move for whenever Jenkins can start practicing etc. Not a fan. Fields quit on his HS team and quit on his college team when he couldn't beat out Fromm (which says a ton). This smells a lot like Trubisky, who couldn't beat out someone who was a scrub. It was Fields' first action, so I give a little leeway, but he was beyond terrible against anyone who would play this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, champagne030 said: Not a fan. Fields quit on his HS team and quit on his college team when he couldn't beat out Fromm (which says a ton). This smells a lot like Trubisky, who couldn't beat out someone who was a scrub. It was Fields' first action, so I give a little leeway, but he was beyond terrible against anyone who would play this year. This is one of the absolute worst takes I've ever seen on this website and that says a lot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is one of the absolute worst takes I've ever seen on this website and that says a lot. I'm not sure what you take offense too. My second sentence is fact. Sure, the rest is opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, champagne030 said: I'm not sure what you take offense too. My second sentence is fact. Sure, the rest is opinion. Everything about your opinion is terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 9 hours ago, TheTruth05 said: He’s the best QB on the roster. Trotting Dalton out there is a waste of time, give Fields time to get timing and chemistry with 1s and stop delaying the inevitable. At this point I’m hoping someone comes calling for Dalton in a trade While he played well, Fields showed his inexperience with going to the check down far too quickly and this is against a team that isn't scheming for him yet. He needs the time to develop some of the decision making. Don't ruin him by throwing him in there and making him just run for his life. That won't develop him as a qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 In other news Anthony Miller hurt his shoulder again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I just think it’s really hard to take much away from a QB performance in a preseason game with teams playing vanilla defenses, and many of the guys defending not being regulars, and/or being out of the NFL when games count. That said, Fields did look good.He had a rocky stretch for a little bit but turned it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/14/2021 at 3:15 PM, Chisoxfn said: Fields has it. Bears signed jason peters so they finally made a move to add some much needed depth at tackle given all the injury issues they have had. He is old and way past his prime, but should be a good vet move for whenever Jenkins can start practicing etc. Man, this reeks of Orlando Pace at the end. also that comment about Fields quitting on Georgia is hilarious. He was the better Qb and he knew it, and he decided to go somewhere else. College football lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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