Soxbadger Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Lol, all you talked about was how you knew the bears would take jones since you hate him, they take field and you adjust to same bullshit. Those are two great defenses and Indiana does a lot of difficult coverages, show me when Lance or Wilson saw those. Fields hurt his ribs against NU and was without Olave. They also ran for almost 400 yards so there was no reason to expose Fields to further injury when they were worried about the playoffs. Some people are going to hate no matter what. You can never guarantee anything, but no one is walking away saying that a team is stupid for picking Fields. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: The only QB I would have been happy with out of this draft is Lawrence, and that wasn't happening. If the Bears stayed at 20 and got Fields I'd have been ok with that. I can't help but think they just traded a top 5 pick next year for a guy that probably sucks. They just made the Trubisky mistake twice. Trubisky? Just quit posting in this thread. This is the exact opposite of Trubisky. Trubisky was a bench guy who only started 1 year for UNC and wasnt even that good. Joe Burrow couldnt beat out Fields and transferred to LSU because he was going to be the back up. That guy was picked #1 overall last year. Fields beat Lawrence straight up this year. And Lawrence forced everyone to pick him 1 but there is an argument Fields easily was the 2nd best QB prospect, you are talking about a player who delivered at an elite level and is deserving of being selected this high. If anything Wilson and Lance are the shiny new Trubiskys and Fields is Watson. Edited April 30, 2021 by Soxbadger 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangeSox Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: That basically guarantees Nagy and Pace another year right? This is the only thing I don't like about this move, but hey if they make it work great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Trubisky? Just quit posting in this thread. This is the exact opposite of Trubisky. Trubisky was a bench guy who only started 1 year for UNC and wasnt even that good. Joe Burrow couldnt beat out Fields and transferred to LSU because he was going to be the back up. That guy was picked #1 overall last year. Fields beat Lawrence straight up this year. And Lawrence forced everyone to pick him 1 but there is an argument Fields easily was the 2nd best QB prospect, you are talking about a player who delivered at an elite level and is deserving of being selected this high. If anything Wilson and Lance are the shiny new Trubiskys and Fields is Watson. lol. One of the things I never want to hear about a QB is "struggles to go through progressions and read defenses" which is Fields biggest knock. That's where the Trubisky comparison comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, StrangeSox said: This is the only thing I don't like about this move, but hey if they make it work great! Sometimes its better to be lucky than good, and a franchises future can change easily on a break. Pace has basically done nothing right and lucked into a pick that could amazing. Sure Fields can flame out, but this was the right decision every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: lol. One of the things I never want to hear about a QB is "struggles to go through progressions and read defenses" which is Fields biggest knock. That's where the Trubisky comparison comes in. Do you actually watch these players or do you just listen to people on tv tell you things that dont even make sense? That is the most vanilla thing any person could ever say about a college level QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Sometimes its better to be lucky than good, and a franchises future can change easily on a break. Pace has basically done nothing right and lucked into a pick that could amazing. Sure Fields can flame out, but this was the right decision every time. Oh absolutely agreed. Pace made the right move here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Do you actually watch these players or do you just listen to people on tv tell you things that dont even make sense? That is the most vanilla thing any person could ever say about a college level QB. Yes. I saw the highs(Clemson game) and the lows (Northwestern and Indiana) Not only did I see a guy who was late with his throws, but the dude is inaccurate. After watching the Northwestern game I didn't think he was a 1st round pick. What he did against Clemson didn't change my mind. Edited April 30, 2021 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Yes. I saw the highs(Clemson game) and the lows (Northwestern and Indiana) Not only did I see a guy who was late with his throws, but the dude is inaccurate. After watching the Northwestern game I didn't think he was a 1st round pick. What he did against Clemson didn't change my mind. Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, StrangeSox said: Lol PFF is on crack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Yes. I saw the highs(Clemson game) and the lows (Northwestern and Indiana) Not only did I see a guy who was late with his throws, but the dude is inaccurate. After watching the Northwestern game I didn't think he was a 1st round pick. Not a 1st round pick? There was a better chance that I was picked in the 1st round than Fields wouldnt be. Seriously if you cant legitimately talk about the sport, dont bother getting upset and just enjoy watching. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: The only QB I would have been happy with out of this draft is Lawrence, and that wasn't happening. If the Bears stayed at 20 and got Fields I'd have been ok with that. I can't help but think they just traded a top 5 pick next year for a guy that probably sucks. They just made the Trubisky mistake twice. Get A grip guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I genuinely was going to joke that Jack already buried the guy but reality beat me to the punch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) We really didn’t give up that much for him. The biggest one was the 1st rounder for next year but that’s really it and we can always trade back into the first round next year. We have some options. Edited April 30, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Get A grip guy Jack still thinks the White Sox should have kept Chris Sale. He thinks the rebuild was a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: We really didn’t give up that much for him. The biggest one was the 1st rounder for next year but that’s really it and we can always trade back into the first round next year. Narrator: They did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: What an absolute burn on our QB1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Madrigal Mystery Tour said: Jack still thinks the White Sox should have kept Chris Sale. He thinks the rebuild was a mistake. Incorrect. I was the one of the biggest rebuild proponents. I do not think that nor did I ever. In fact, I think they didn't rebuild quickly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I genuinely was going to joke that Jack already buried the guy but reality beat me to the punch Is he a QB that plays for the Bears? He sucks. It's just a fact of life, like death, taxes, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) @Jack Parkman - How do you ever expect to get a franchise QB if you only like the 1-1 in one of the deepest QB drafts in recent memory? Edited April 30, 2021 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Is he a QB that plays for the Bears? He sucks. It's just a fact of life, like death, taxes, etc. Well, you're not winning anything in this league until you can break that fact, so why not keep trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: @Jack Parkman - How do you ever expect to get a franchise QB if you only like the 1-1 in one of the deepest QB starts in recent memory? I tend to grade QBs very harshly. I wouldn't have taken Burrow or Herbert top 10 last year either. If you're not a Peyton Manning/Luck/Lawrence type prospect, slam dunk, no brainer at 1-1 I wouldn't take them top 10. Edited April 30, 2021 by Jack Parkman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Is he a QB that plays for the Bears? He sucks. It's just a fact of life, like death, taxes, etc. Then by your own reasoning if the Bears got Lawrence he would suck. All you can do is make good decisions and see what happens. No one who legitimately follows football is going to have a major problem with this pick. Fields could have easily gone #2 and people could have defended it. Edited April 30, 2021 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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