ScootsMcGoots Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: How obnoxious would it be to be 90 minutes late to a Zoom meeting? Lol true true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) I wish JR had a thing for Jim Leyland instead of TLR. He's only 76. Plus, news conferences would be a real treat. Edited February 18, 2021 by zisk add 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Ya'll have lost it. I'd prefer he spent that time coaching the players than speaking to media, personally. If he was in the cage or bullpen discussing things with guys, so be it. If he has a media obilgation on day 1 of spring training, he should make it on time. He's the manager, it isn't going to change, but Tony is an ass who will eventually b**** about the media, yet he treats them this way. In the Celebrity Death thread I posted a tweet from an older writer who was covering HS sports in Oakland back when Tony was managing the A's. This guy got bumped up to cover the A's one series against the White Sox. The Sox beat the A's and Eck in the 9th. The headline, which the writer has no part of said Eck blew a save. He didn't. The story had it right, the headline had it wrong. Tony went after this guy the next day. The tribute was to Pedro Gomez who was this guy's competition who told Tony to lay off the guy, quit trying to embarrass him, he knew damn well the guy wasn't responsible for the headline. If you treat people like shit, don't be expected to be put on a throne by he same people. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: If he has a media obilgation on day 1 of spring training, he should make it on time. He's the manager, it isn't going to change, but Tony is an ass who will eventually b**** about the media, yet he treats them this way. In the Celebrity Death thread I posted a tweet from an older writer who was covering HS sports in Oakland back when Tony was managing the A's. This guy got bumped up to cover the A's one series against the White Sox. The Sox beat the A's and Eck in the 9th. The headline, which the writer has no part of said Eck blew a save. He didn't. The story had it right, the headline had it wrong. Tony went after this guy the next day. The tribute was to Pedro Gomez who was this guy's competition who told Tony to lay off the guy, quit trying to embarrass him, he knew damn well the guy wasn't responsible for the headline. If you treat people like shit, don't be expected to be put on a throne by he same people. During his first turn with the Sox, Tony was not a popular guy. That didn't make him a bad manager,; he just wasn't all that popular. Fans didn't like the way the firing was handled, but I didn't hear too many people call for his return. Maybe things will turn out this time around, but I don't expect a love-fest between LaRussa and the fans. Maybe not a love fest with anyone else either. If the team wins, it won't matter. If the team doesn't win, that will be a different story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: ^ For the record, THIS is exactly what I was referring to when I was talking about Boomer mentality. The game is changing, and he can't stand it, so he wants to drag it back to the last century. Pass. The guy changed the game while managing. He is not a blathering idiot that is spouting off nonsense. If some other manager said this we would all be anxious of what they think. You can hate him for a myriad of reasons but he knows what he is doing. In regard to Hahn walking away......ya that is easy to say. How has it gone for someone like Dan Evans once he left. Hahn has better job security than just about any GM in baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The guy changed the game while managing. He is not a blathering idiot that is spouting off nonsense. If some other manager said this we would all be anxious of what they think. You can hate him for a myriad of reasons but he knows what he is doing. In regard to Hahn walking away......ya that is easy to say. How has it gone for someone like Dan Evans once he left. Hahn has better job security than just about any GM in baseball. He changed the game decades ago. The game has changed again since then. Repeatedly. But he wants to go back to the good ol days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: He changed the game decades ago. The game has changed again since then. Repeatedly. But he wants to go back to the good ol days. He won the world series 10 years ago you act like he has not managed a game since 1957 He has a good staff around him and he has a history of success. You can hate him all you want but to act like the guy doesn't know baseball is asinine. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Harry Chappas said: He won the world series 10 years ago you act like he has not managed a game since 1957 He has a good staff around him and he has a history of success. You can hate him all you want but to act like the guy doesn't know baseball is asinine. I am sick of pretending what he did decades ago and refuses to let go of is somehow clearance for him today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) People who think he is some sort of genius, will be bitching about either his line ups, his bullpen usage, his strategy by the end of the first series this season. He's a better in game manager than Rickey, but remember, Roland Hemond also almost fired him. It's great they can use the failed Hawk as GM experiment to cover up, Tony wasn't this baseball God in the dugout. What made him a HOFer baseball person where the HOFer baseball people who played for him. That's legit. One odd thing, is Tony seemed worried he would have his HOF status taken away if he returned to the dugout, but doesn't even think it could possibly be taken away if he takes out a family driving his SUV hammered. Edited February 18, 2021 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The guy changed the game while managing. He is not a blathering idiot that is spouting off nonsense. If some other manager said this we would all be anxious of what they think. You can hate him for a myriad of reasons but he knows what he is doing. In regard to Hahn walking away......ya that is easy to say. How has it gone for someone like Dan Evans once he left. Hahn has better job security than just about any GM in baseball. Harry: He knew what he was doing. It remains to be seen if he knows what he is doing. It has been 10 years since he managed. We hope he still has it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Any plans on transitioning Yasmani Grandal to Left Field this season? Anyone around the last time Tony was here can assure you he didn’t “know what he was doing” while with the White Sox. Jerry himself last Winter stated Tony has no reason to return to managing, and attempt to lead young players as a 75 year old (now 76). There have only been three managers since with a lower White Sox winning percentage than La Russia’s mediocre .506 record (Fergosi, Ventura, and Renteria, the latter tasked with a “tanking team”). For those not old enough to have booed La Russa in person: LARUSSA FAILED TO FACE REALITY Jerome HoltzmanCHICAGO TRIBUNE https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-06-22-8602140807-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 So ten years ago is not relative but 33 years ago is? The guy that is a clueless moron moved on from a team the was one of the most successful in White Sox history (1983) and had a hall of fame career winning world series and numerous pennants with two different franchises. Of the White Sox A's and Cardinals only the White Sox have won a world series after he left so while there has beena level of success with both franchises the success was greater with LaRussa. AJ Hinch was a failure in AZ and his replacement in Houston took a team that lost their two aces under Hinch to the ALCS but he was going to come in and lead the White Sox to greatness without a doubt. He may be a epic failure, time will tell but they guy is not a moron. You may also find him despicable but to think he does not know baseball is idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: I am sick of pretending what he did decades ago and refuses to let go of is somehow clearance for him today. What do you think, over/under 500 posts where you tell everyone how much you dislike TLR? I'm going over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Of the White Sox A's and Cardinals only the White Sox have won a world series after he left so while there has beena level of success with both franchises the success was greater with LaRussa. One NL pennant, 4 division titles, 6 playoff births since he retired for St. Louis. 11 playoff appearances, 7 division titles for the As, just under a 50% success rate at making it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, turnin' two said: What do you think, over/under 500 posts where you tell everyone how much you dislike TLR? I'm going over. Depends a lot on how many times people come after me for not bowing down and worshiping the ground he walks on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: Depends a lot on how many times people come after me for not bowing down and worshiping the ground he walks on. But don't you know he's in the Hall of Fame, brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Depends a lot on how many times people come after me for not bowing down and worshiping the ground he walks on. Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, turnin' two said: Not really. With posts like this, I would also bet the over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 22 hours ago, Sockin said: Apparently TLR is 90 min late to media scrum. Am I the only one that noticed the reference to "CP time"? (As in "colored people" time)? Jesus Christ. Trying to take the heat off of TLR by putting his own foot is his mouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 What LaRussa has done in the past has no credence. Neither does his inclusion to the Hall of Fame. This is the real question: Is he the right man to manage this club in its current stage of development? Since his hiring, I haven't heard this question answered. I've heard how JR had regrets over allowing Hawk to fire him. And I have heard so many other things. Can anyone tell me why he is the right man for the job at the present time? Or really why he isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I'm not a huge fan of the hire but unless he inserts Adam Eaton to pitch in the highest leverage inning of the season he literally cannot be a worse in game manager than Rickie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Am I the only one that noticed the reference to "CP time"? (As in "colored people" time)? Jesus Christ. Trying to take the heat off of TLR by putting his own foot is his mouth? I don't care fr Herb, but he's black so who cares. I dont. ****************** Did any journalist ask LaRussa about his driving analogy? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: I don't care fr Herb, but he's black so who cares. I dont. ****************** Did any journalist ask LaRussa about his driving analogy? I actually didn't know Herb Lawrence is black 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Depends a lot on how many times people come after me for not bowing down and worshiping the ground he walks on. I have seen nobody worshipping him. Not everybody his hellbent on telling everyone he is the worst person alive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry Chappas said: I have seen nobody worshipping him. Not everybody his hellbent on telling everyone he is the worst person alive. Look, at the end of the fucking day if he's better than rick (low bar, sure) in game I won't mind. If it blows up in their face and the team is 40-60 in July and he goes and gets another DUI, yea, fuck, I'll be pissed. There is downside here. But his track record is decent. He def knows people. I don't buy that he can't get along with the clubhouse because he's older; ya can't be TLR and not have people skills. Now can he apply them in 2021? Fuck if I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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