Bob Sacamano Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, hi8is said: You obviously know but the guy I was responding to didn’t… I’m actually aware of it haha but still think it’s weird. Might as well start a thread for everyone else we almost drafted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: I’m actually aware of it haha but still think it’s weird. Might as well start a thread for everyone else we almost drafted. This is now a Kelenic/Trammell/Kyle Lewis thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 10 hours ago, hi8is said: You obviously know but the guy I was responding to didn’t… I really thought Harold was Kelenic's dad. Now I get why people think this thread is weird. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Kelenic has been the worst player in MLB this season according to Fangraphs: he now is dead last in fWAR. Impressive. Edited September 15, 2021 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Kelenic is a pile of garbage in CF. They need to move him ASAP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 This thread is a treasure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 8:20 AM, supernuke said: Really, is that why? I thought Kelenic was his son or something. We did have some AA players' fiance post here a bit years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 16 hours ago, ron883 said: Kelenic is a pile of garbage in CF. They need to move him ASAP He's nothing special in a corner either. His bat looks closer to 250/310/450 long term as well. Looking quite a bit like a guy that might have some nice 3-5 WAR seasons in his absolute prime (Mitch Hanniger like for a Mariners comp) but that still needs A LOT of development. Avi is another one perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 Absolute Piss rod ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 He hit another long bomb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 Have a night Kid! Another one crushed!! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Kid's hotter than a rolling ball of butcher knives. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 22 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Kid's hotter than a rolling ball of butcher knives. ?? For someone that would continually mock Madrigal for his lack of power, Madrigal has a career OPS of .133 higher than Kelenic in the same number of plate appearances. And apparently Kelenic’s defense is horrendous too. Thought this guy was 5-tool? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: For someone that would continually mock Madrigal for his lack of power, Madrigal has a career OPS of .133 higher than Kelenic in the same number of plate appearances. And apparently Kelenic’s defense is horrendous too. Thought this guy was 5-tool? Players take time to develop - who would’ve thunk it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Speed. Precision. Power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, hi8is said: Players take time to develop - who would’ve thunk it? I’m not saying this guy won’t be good but if Sox fans were disappointed with Madrigal I’ve gotta imagine Mariners fans are very disappointed with the early returns on Kelenic. Edited September 21, 2021 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just hope he has a better career than Jeremy Reed for Harold’s sake… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Now at .172, had a big chance to break the game wide open but just flew out. Got to feel for Mariners and Blue Jays fans. (Not that anyone predicted Seattle would be in this position without Lewis and Paxton for most of the year, and Kelenic struggling to get his OPS up over .600) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) On 9/20/2021 at 12:47 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: For someone that would continually mock Madrigal for his lack of power, Madrigal has a career OPS of .133 higher than Kelenic in the same number of plate appearances. And apparently Kelenic’s defense is horrendous too. Thought this guy was 5-tool? It’s much too early to speak definitively on either career, but jumping on player promoted at age 21 (post service time manipulation), when most of his peers are in college or low minors, is a bit short sighted. Kelenic’s OPS the past 28 days (baseball reference default split date (also 7, 14 days) is .809. Jarred is 2 1/2 years younger than Madrigal, still a huge difference / factor at this stage of their respective development. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=kelenja01&year=2021&t=b Edited September 25, 2021 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: It’s much too early to speak definitively on either career, but jumping on player promoted at age 21 (post service time manipulation), when most of his peers are in college or low minors, is a bit short sighted. Kelenic’s OPS the past 28 days (baseball reference default split date (also 7, 14 days) is .809. Jarred is 2 1/2 years younger than Madrigal, still a huge difference / factor at this stage of their respective development. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=kelenja01&year=2021&t=b Probably the biggest reason this thread exists is because the Sox took Madrigal ahead of him, and Harold hates Madrigal. Kelenic is going to be a good player, but he isn't Mike Trout on steroids like Harold wants you to believe. Edited September 25, 2021 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Why does our guy with an inside source have to be such a dbag? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Kid took the MVP deeeeeeeeep. He's gonna be a superstar. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Kid took the MVP deeeeeeeeep. He's gonna be a superstar. ?? LOL - The cherry picking in that tweet should net 10-15 years in the slammer. Willie McCovey - Age 21- 52 Games 13 HRs; 1.085 OPS (Rookie of the Year) Mickey Mantle - Age 19 - 96 G; 13 HR; .792 OPS (Age 20 season - 3rd in MVP voting 23 HRs .924 OPS) Hank Aaron - Age 20 - 122 G (Negro Leagues); 13 HRs, .769 OPS (27/.924 in age 21 season, 44 HRs / .895 OPS first MLB season) Jarred Kelenic - Age 21 - 87 G; 14 HRs, .602 OPS Edited September 27, 2021 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Harold, you're really pushing it. At least with Puig in his first two seasons and then Tatis, they put up legit numbers that didn't need to be "massaged" to make reasonable-sounding arguments on behalf of a player. Obviously we'll never know how the likes of Kelenic and Vaughn (from a White Sox fan perspective) would have had their career trajectories transformed by playing a "normal" 2020 schedule. But someone will argue perhaps that player never would have been a star regardless, if Covid completely derailed their career/s. Of course, there are players like Eduardo Rodriguez and Freddie Freeman that are quite fortunate to be alive, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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