runtheballdown Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Let the bashing begin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 good riddance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Maybe to keep him stretched out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanofDuPage Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Did we lose the Eaton trade?.......Oh we got Eaton back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: Maybe to keep him stretched out It makes sense. He is not a bullpen piece, and unless they change course and transition Kopech into a starter, Lopez is the fifth starter when the inevitable SP injury occurs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, DanofDuPage said: Did we lose the Eaton trade?.......Oh we got Eaton back. Giolito alone = winning. Whether Eaton’s return this year is a win or a loss is an open question until the season plays out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tony Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Giolito alone = winning. Whether Eaton’s return this year is a win or a loss is an open question until the season plays out. It was a joke. I would hope no one actually is still wondering if the Sox “won” the Eaton for Giolito trade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Not even Katz could help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tony said: It was a joke. I would hope no one actually is still wondering if the Sox “won” the Eaton for Giolito trade... Future performance clearly favors the White Sox for the trade, but there are some here who would argue the WS title trumps other arguments. Waiting for someone to post a Tatis Jr. for Geoff Blum trade would have been worth it, because "Flags Fly Forever"! Geoff was definitely worth Ryan Meaux, the player the Sox sent to, wait for it, the San Diego Padres at the 2005 trade deadline. People were saying the Eaton trade was worth it for Washington since they won the WS and Eaton had a good WS performance (with a 1.5 bWAR season, his best with Washington). They also said his WS performance was a good reason for Eaton's White Sox signing in December. Hope it works out, will take the season and whether he is picked up for his option to determine the net result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, runtheballdown said: Let the bashing begin Don't know why anyone would bash him. This roster's likely gonna need a 6th and 7th, and possibly an 8th SP; most teams do. Dunning ain't here any more, and this is what this roster is, for better or worse. 35 minutes ago, tray said: Not even Katz could help him. Let's pump the brakes on deeming Katz a miracle worker for just a minute. Katz couldn't "fix" Fulmer, and the results remain to be seen with Cease. Ugh, why didn't they sign another SP this offseason? The bullpen looks like it'll be NAILS, even without seeing much of Hendriks so far. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Future performance clearly favors the White Sox for the trade, but there are some here who would argue the WS title trumps other arguments. Waiting for someone to post a Tatis Jr. for Geoff Blum trade would have been worth it, because "Flags Fly Forever"! Geoff was definitely worth Ryan Meaux, the player the Sox sent to, wait for it, the San Diego Padres at the 2005 trade deadline. People were saying the Eaton trade was worth it for Washington since they won the WS and Eaton had a good WS performance (with a 1.5 bWAR season, his best with Washington). They also said his WS performance was a good reason for Eaton's White Sox signing in December. Hope it works out, will take the season and whether he is picked up for his option to determine the net result. Yeah, none of that matters. The Sox were entering a rebuild and Adam Eaton, an “above-average” outfielder, was traded for what turned out to be one of the Cy Young favorites of 2021 who’s 26 years olds. I don’t really care what Eaton did in Washington. The Sox, or any team does that trade every day of the week, twice on Sundays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: Let's pump the brakes on deeming Katz a miracle worker for just a minute. Katz couldn't "fix" Fulmer, and the results remain to be seen with Cease Coop could have accomplished the same thing...almost nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: Don't know why anyone would bash him. This roster's likely gonna need a 6th and 7th, and possibly an 8th SP; most teams do. Dunning ain't here any more, and this is what this roster is, for better or worse. Let's pump the brakes on deeming Katz a miracle worker for just a minute. Katz couldn't "fix" Fulmer, and the results remain to be seen with Cease. Ugh, why didn't they sign another SP this offseason? The bullpen looks like it'll be NAILS, even without seeing much of Hendriks so far. Fulmer? When did Katz work with Fulmer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Were the white sox aware of his 2018 stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: Fulmer? When did Katz work with Fulmer? During the 2019-2020 offseason, Fulmer went to work with Katz, after Katz had helped to turn around Giolito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: Fulmer? When did Katz work with Fulmer? Agree don’t remember Katz working with fulmer, but it doesn’t matter because no pitching coach can fix him anyway. Fulmer is an albatross cat getting 9 lives because he has some great spin rate. Who cares if you can’t throw a strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: Don't know why anyone would bash him. This roster's likely gonna need a 6th and 7th, and possibly an 8th SP; most teams do. Dunning ain't here any more, and this is what this roster is, for better or worse. Let's pump the brakes on deeming Katz a miracle worker for just a minute. Katz couldn't "fix" Fulmer, and the results remain to be seen with Cease. Ugh, why didn't they sign another SP this offseason? The bullpen looks like it'll be NAILS, even without seeing much of Hendriks so far. I don't like to complain but not getting Q was ridiculous. Major fopah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Fulmer worked with Driveline, who Katz is not associated with. https://theathletic.com/822743/2019/02/19/why-carson-fulmer-trained-at-driveline-this-offseason-to-reclaim-his-college-dominance/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Could never figure Lopez out. Seemed to have the potential to be at least a consistent starting pitcher. Don't feel like bashing him. He was frustrating to watch more than anyone else. Perhaps he can catch on with someone else and figure it out. But it is not happening right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I’ll give Lopez credit for being pretty durable and he actually had a 2018 season we can only pray Cease could match this season. Hopefully he gets his act together and maybe another team will want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Grinder Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I guess we put Lopez on the already full scrap heap of shoulda, woulda & coulda have We seem collect this class of players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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