JoeCredeYes Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Yeah that was cool. Look guys - I like Moncada alot. But he acts hurt all the time. Agree to disagree if you want, but its a rarity when he goes a week of playing everyday without acting seriously hurt. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who watches most Sox games. Regular occurrence. Agreed, I think the biggest issue is minor injuries seem to affect his production more than one would like. I honestly hold my breath every time he has to leg out a grounder because it seems like every time he does he's tender and gimpy for long stretches. Hopefully it is just recency bias with COVID last season, he has looked MUCH looser/smoother/less restricted to my untrained eye in ST this year. Hope it holds up cause dude can mash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greydawgfan1 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Yoan Moncada is incredibly soft. This has absolutely nothing to do with Covid last year. He gets a complete pass for everything to do with last season from me. But the dude acts like he's seriously injured frequently. Foul ball off his shin, hit by pitch, diving for a ball, etc. Always acts very hurt. I agree Moncada is a super elite athlete and I am not really bad mouthing him. I love the guy. But he's charmin soft. Lol I guarantee you are way softer than eloy or moncada. It’s so funny hearing these wannabe tough guys calling pro athletes soft. I almost always exclusively hear this from old fat farts. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Greydawgfan1 said: Lol I guarantee you are way softer than eloy or moncada. It’s so funny hearing these wannabe tough guys calling pro athletes soft. I almost always exclusively hear this from old fat farts. lol you can’t be serious? First of all, I’m in my 20s. Second, no shit Eloy and Moncada are tougher than me. They’re fucking professional athletes and athletic freaks of nature. I am talking about softness in the context of professional baseball/athletes. No idea how calling Moncada soft makes me a “tough guy”. It’s clear as day to anyone who watches the Sox. Sorry I offended you, buddy. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) This team shouldn't worry about facing left handers, against which their heavily weighted RH hitting line up didn't lose a single game last season. RH pitching is an entirely different matter. With that in mind, perhaps Lamb, if healthy, should be in the lineup, on days when the Sox are facing a RH starter: VERSUS RH PITCHING AB 2B 3B HR RBI AVG OBP SLG J. LAMB 2016 & 2017 413 27 7 25 75 .271 .346 .552 404 26 4 25 86 .282 .386 .552 ELOY CAREER STATS: 501 26 2 34 91 .279 .321 .543 Projected lineup vs. RHP: Anderson Eaton Abreu Moncada Robert Lamb Grandal/Collins Vaughn Madrigal Edited March 30, 2021 by Lillian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Lillian said: This team shouldn't worry about facing left handers, against which their heavily weighted RH hitting line up didn't lose a single game last season. RH pitching is an entirely different matter. With that in mind, perhaps Lamb, if healthy, should be in the lineup, on days when the Sox are facing a RH starter: VERSUS RH PITCHING AB 2B 3B HR RBI AVG OBP SLG J. LAMB 2016 & 2017 413 27 7 25 75 .271 .346 .552 404 26 4 25 86 .282 .386 .552 ELOY CAREER STATS: 501 26 2 34 91 .279 .321 .543 Projected lineup vs. RHP: Anderson Eaton Abreu Moncada Robert Lamb Grandal/Collins Vaughn Madrigal Sooooo we should just sign Encarncion if we are allowed to use 2016 and 2017 numbers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Lillian said: This team shouldn't worry about facing left handers, against which their heavily weighted RH hitting line up didn't lose a single game last season. RH pitching is an entirely different matter. With that in mind, perhaps Lamb, if healthy, should be in the lineup, on days when the Sox are facing a RH starter: VERSUS RH PITCHING AB 2B 3B HR RBI AVG OBP SLG J. LAMB 2016 & 2017 413 27 7 25 75 .271 .346 .552 404 26 4 25 86 .282 .386 .552 ELOY CAREER STATS: 501 26 2 34 91 .279 .321 .543 Projected lineup vs. RHP: Anderson Eaton Abreu Moncada Robert Lamb Grandal/Collins Vaughn Madrigal Noooo thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Lillian said: This team shouldn't worry about facing left handers, against which their heavily weighted RH hitting line up didn't lose a single game last season. RH pitching is an entirely different matter. With that in mind, perhaps Lamb, if healthy, should be in the lineup, on days when the Sox are facing a RH starter: VERSUS RH PITCHING AB 2B 3B HR RBI AVG OBP SLG J. LAMB 2016 & 2017 413 27 7 25 75 .271 .346 .552 404 26 4 25 86 .282 .386 .552 ELOY CAREER STATS: 501 26 2 34 91 .279 .321 .543 Projected lineup vs. RHP: Anderson Eaton Abreu Moncada Robert Lamb Grandal/Collins Vaughn Madrigal No offense Lillian but stats from 4 and 5 years ago really have nothing to do with the player he is now . But he may still make the team. Seems as though the Sox want to have more power and LH vets on the bench which in theory is a good idea for late inning heroics. All we can hope is that it works in execution as much as it does in theory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, manbearpuig said: Noooo thank you. Yeah, I think I'd rather just run out Collins at DH versus RHP assuming Vaughn can actually passably play LF. If Vaughn isn't a close to everyday answer in LF and needs to DH most the time, not sure what you can do really against RHP. The mental gymnastics that Lillian took to get to that conclusion were a bit funny, but I'd probably take my chances rolling with Lamb in LF occasionally against RHP. Leury's career slash line against RHP: .243/.283/.351/.634 Engel career slash line against RHP: .207/.264/.324/.588 Lamb career slash line against RHP: .257/.342/.463/.805 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Sooooo we should just sign Encarncion if we are allowed to use 2016 and 2017 numbers. No, we shouldn't "just sign Encarnacion". Encarnacion is 38, right handed, can't play a position and isn't excused from being bad because of an injury. Comparing apples and oranges, is not a valid argument. Asking Vaughn to learn a new position, in his rookie season, is not the best option. If Collins is in the lineup, he shouldn't hit in Eloy's spot, as he is yet unproven. He would have to bat further down in the order. If La Russa doesn't intend to play Lamb, why did they release Lucroy to make room for Lamb? Moreover, why would Lamb sign to sit on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lillian said: No, we shouldn't "just sign Encarnacion". Encarnacion is 38, right handed, can't play a position and isn't excused from being bad because of an injury. Comparing apples and oranges, is not a valid argument. Asking Vaughn to learn a new position, in his rookie season, is not the best option. If Collins is in the lineup, he shouldn't hit in Eloy's spot, as he is yet unproven. He would have to bat further down in the order. If La Russa doesn't intend to play Lamb, why did they release Lucroy to make room for Lamb? Moreover, why would Lamb sign to sit on the bench? I don't believe his comparison was honest, he was pointing out that using numbers from 5 years ago isn't that smart 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Lamb DH-ing today. Team might want to announce the signing. 7-inning game today at 2 central. Cease going 6 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Lillian said: No, we shouldn't "just sign Encarnacion". Encarnacion is 38, right handed, can't play a position and isn't excused from being bad because of an injury. Comparing apples and oranges, is not a valid argument. Asking Vaughn to learn a new position, in his rookie season, is not the best option. If Collins is in the lineup, he shouldn't hit in Eloy's spot, as he is yet unproven. He would have to bat further down in the order. If La Russa doesn't intend to play Lamb, why did they release Lucroy to make room for Lamb? Moreover, why would Lamb sign to sit on the bench? Lamb has also never played OF in the MLB or MiLB so he would be learning a new position as well (I assume he is in LF in your lineup). Also using stats from 5 years ago is not valid data. Edited March 30, 2021 by manbearpuig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: Lamb has also never played OF in the MLB or MiLB so he would be learning a new position as well (I assume he is in LF in your lineup). Also using stats from 5 years ago is not valid data. That is true about Lamb never playing left field, however, you are not going to be nearly as concerned about messing with him as you would be with say, Vaughn or Moncada. Leftfield should not be a challenging position for an athletic guy like Lamb. it’s not like anyone is expecting him to be a gold glover. Sox seem fairly committed To AV in left field though, and I think if he proves himself to be suitable out there that’s a pretty good development for the future.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: That is true about Lamb never playing left field, however, you are not going to be nearly as concerned about messing with him as you would be with say, Vaughn or Moncada. Leftfield should not be a challenging position for an athletic guy like Lamb. it’s not like anyone is expecting him to be a gold glover. Sox seem fairly committed To AV in left field though, and I think if he proves himself to be suitable out there that’s a pretty good development for the future.?? Oh I'm not disagreeing that he shouldn't be open to playing in LF. Just pointing out to the poster that either way, they have an non-outfield player in LF. Edited March 30, 2021 by manbearpuig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Sox seem fairly committed To AV in left field though, and I think if he proves himself to be suitable out there that’s a pretty good development for the future.?? IF, and this is a huge if and by no means do I believe it is the case, BUT, IF Vaughn were a decent-below average LF instead of 1B he'd be a top 5 prospect in the game right now. The bar, being Eloy, is very low. This is a low risk move with a nice potential payout. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 16 hours ago, Greydawgfan1 said: Lol I guarantee you are way softer than eloy or moncada. It’s so funny hearing these wannabe tough guys calling pro athletes soft. I almost always exclusively hear this from old fat farts. Look, just because these guys are athletic freaks and top notch baseball players doesn't mean they are "hard" or good at fighting. Tbh, if you put me and Moncada in an octagon, I'm betting on myself. He may have more muscle, but that won't stop him from getting taken to the ground and getting out-techniqued. He's always very injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Lillian said: No, we shouldn't "just sign Encarnacion". Encarnacion is 38, right handed, can't play a position and isn't excused from being bad because of an injury. Comparing apples and oranges, is not a valid argument. Asking Vaughn to learn a new position, in his rookie season, is not the best option. If Collins is in the lineup, he shouldn't hit in Eloy's spot, as he is yet unproven. He would have to bat further down in the order. If La Russa doesn't intend to play Lamb, why did they release Lucroy to make room for Lamb? Moreover, why would Lamb sign to sit on the bench? Good to have you back Lillian ? hope you've been able to get back to the gym as the quarantine days are ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, ron883 said: Look, just because these guys are athletic freaks and top notch baseball players doesn't mean they are "hard" or good at fighting. Tbh, if you put me and Moncada in an octagon, I'm betting on myself. He may have more muscle, but that won't stop him from getting taken to the ground and getting out-techniqued. He's always very injury prone. Would pay good money for this match 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greydawgfan1 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Would pay good money for this match Internet tough guys are the best. Usually the softest dudes alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, ron883 said: Look, just because these guys are athletic freaks and top notch baseball players doesn't mean they are "hard" or good at fighting. Tbh, if you put me and Moncada in an octagon, I'm betting on myself. He may have more muscle, but that won't stop him from getting taken to the ground and getting out-techniqued. He's always very injury prone. Just gotta kick him in the shin and he'll hobble around be listed as "day to day." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, raBBit said: IF, and this is a huge if and by no means do I believe it is the case, BUT, IF Vaughn were a decent-below average LF instead of 1B he'd be a top 5 prospect in the game right now. The bar, being Eloy, is very low. This is a low risk move with a nice potential payout. Exactly. It also solved the Eloy LF issue. And the Eloy/Abreu/Vaughn 3 players 2 positions issue. I think its a great development for the future if he can stick in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Greydawgfan1 said: Internet tough guys are the best. Usually the softest dudes alive Soft as in he can't play through any pain. The normal stuff other players can play through. A foulball off his leg takes him out of the game and has him on the bench the next day. That's what people are referring to. Edited March 30, 2021 by manbearpuig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 57 minutes ago, ron883 said: Look, just because these guys are athletic freaks and top notch baseball players doesn't mean they are "hard" or good at fighting. Tbh, if you put me and Moncada in an octagon, I'm betting on myself. He may have more muscle, but that won't stop him from getting taken to the ground and getting out-techniqued. He's always very injury prone. but his muscle would likely klock you out in one punch lol Better hope you take him down first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Guys come on, it's Ron. Lmao come on now 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Orioles released Yolmer. Watch your back, Jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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