ScootsMcGoots Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 If Yermin keeps hitting, and when Engel comes back, Vaughn will not have a starting spot on this roster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: If Yermin keeps hitting, and when Engel comes back, Vaughn will not have a starting spot on this roster... It's a problem, but as far as problems go it's a good one to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I’d be more comfortable sending Vaughn to work on playing LF and play every day in Charlotte for 4-6 weeks. Let’s him return able to pay full time in LF, pre/post Eloy return. That leaves time for Engel and Mercedes to play 4-5 games a week, let Collins catch every third day and play DH 1-2 more per week. Grandal (1B) and Abreu (DH) get fielding breathers. After a few months settles, can see who deserves to keep playing time upon Vaughn, and later Eloy’s, return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 tbh it's bullshit that they rushed him as fast as they did, even with the issues regarding milb and the delayed season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 For reference, it took Adam Dunn until May 7th to get his fifteenth hit of the 2011 season, and Royce Clayton until June 1 to get his fifteenth hit in the 2001 season. Thankfully 2021 is different ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 4:33 PM, ron883 said: I wonder if it has to do with his weight? He seems like a guy everybody likes. Maybe he has "too much" fun, if you catch my drift. Discipline problems according to a few posts above. That means showing up late for something usually more than once or violating curfew or other team rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 14 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Discipline problems according to a few posts above. That means showing up late for something usually more than once or violating curfew or other team rules. He's a good dude but had some immaturity moments like a million other athletes chasing a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, macsandz said: He's a good dude but had some immaturity moments like a million other athletes chasing a dream. Pretty sure Abreu talked to him after the bat flip yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Greg Hibbard said: For reference, it took Adam Dunn until May 7th to get his fifteenth hit of the 2011 season, and Royce Clayton until June 1 to get his fifteenth hit in the 2001 season. Thankfully 2021 is different ? One of my favorite parts of the movie "The Rookie" is when Dennis Quaid's character makes his Major League debut and strikes out the batter on 3 pitches. That batter was Royce Clayton and I always think "yeah a 3 pitch K sounds about right" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 1:47 PM, 35thstreetswarm said: 3. He is a great big fat person Who has surprisingly good speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Soxbadger said: Pretty sure Abreu talked to him after the bat flip yesterday. I don't think Abreu cares about bat flips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, JuliusO1274 said: I don't think Abreu cares about bat flips. yeah I don't think it had anything to do with the bat flip, but who knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 If he keeps hitting you obviously extend him...I love it when one thread on Soxtalk is answered by another thread. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, wegner said: If he keeps hitting you obviously extend him...I love it when one thread on Soxtalk is answered by another thread. ? Hitting for how long, exactly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Soxbadger said: Pretty sure Abreu talked to him after the bat flip yesterday. I hope not. Let the kids play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Vaughn should never be in the outfield.....ever. His sole focus should be on hitting. Don't distract him...at all. He is under enough pressure as a rookie trying to stay on the Major league roster. Let him DH every other game so that he has a chance to prove that he can hit better than Mercedes. If he can't, the Sox surely do not need his glove in the outfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted April 10, 2021 Author Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, tray said: Vaughn should never be in the outfield.....ever. His sole focus should be on hitting. Don't distract him...at all. He is under enough pressure as a rookie trying to stay on the Major league roster. Let him DH every other game so that he has a chance to prove that he can hit better than Mercedes. If he can't, the Sox surely do not need his glove in the outfield. The question is not whether Vaughn can hit better than Mercedes, but whether he can hit better than the outfielders the Sox have healthy right now. I would take him now over Williams and Hamilton (before he got hurt). The only place to develop his hitting is in LF because he's not outhitting Mercedes at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 12 hours ago, tray said: Vaughn should never be in the outfield.....ever. His sole focus should be on hitting. Don't distract him...at all. He is under enough pressure as a rookie trying to stay on the Major league roster. Let him DH every other game so that he has a chance to prove that he can hit better than Mercedes. If he can't, the Sox surely do not need his glove in the outfield. Lolol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Just given his age, if Yermin keeps hitting, I think we have to look at his place in the lineup and project Eloy in that role. The injury may force the team to trade Yermin and prospects for a real left fielder. I mean, the Sox can’t go on like this...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Just given his age, if Yermin keeps hitting, I think we have to look at his place in the lineup and project Eloy in that role. The injury may force the team to trade Yermin and prospects for a real left fielder. I mean, the Sox can’t go on like this...right? Mercedes doesn’t have much value until he can prove over 3-4 months that he can sustain this... He has more value to the White Sox until Vaughn/Collins prove themselves...and/or Jimenez returns at full health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 We make a sacrifice to the gods if he continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 12:31 AM, poppysox said: Who has surprisingly good speed. Not really, his sprint speed is 25.5 according to statcast. That is quite slow. Vaughn also is only at 25.8 which is really slow too and not really playable in LF every day. Thus I think the right move for Vaughn is to play him in left part time until Engel is back and then send him down. You can't play a sub 26 sprint speed guy every day in LF, of course he will some routine fly balls but over a year that is probably - 15 runs over a full season like Hoskins was in his LF season (and Vaughn is even slower than Hoskins) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 3:08 PM, Soxbadger said: Pretty sure Abreu talked to him after the bat flip yesterday. Good lord no fun police out in full force. Not you just in MLB, shit is absurd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) On 4/10/2021 at 1:47 PM, caulfield12 said: Mercedes doesn’t have much value until he can prove over 3-4 months that he can sustain this... He has more value to the White Sox until Vaughn/Collins prove themselves...and/or Jimenez returns at full health. I'm not sure that he would have more value to the White Sox long term than a real left fielder, which is kinda where I was going with that. The Sox can't leave it up to friggin Colas, Eloy and Engel. A competant, serious organization would not. Mercedes maintaining his value as a hitter, or just as a prospect atm, combined with a pitching prospect would make the most obvious trade bait now or later. Eloy has DH on lockdown, so let's get used to the idea of trading Mercedes imo Edited April 11, 2021 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 The Marlins tried to acquire Yermin in the off-season: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/04/marlins-trade-rumors-yermin-mercedes-white-sox.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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