ron883 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 He pitched a gem in his first start. 5 innings, 6 SO, no walks, 3 hits. Really hoping this one doesn't bite us in the arse... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, ron883 said: He pitched a gem in his first start. 5 innings, 6 SO, no walks, 3 hits. Really hoping this one doesn't bite us in the arse... Who against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 So, why exactly do people do this to themselves? You don't need to closely track every player that's been traded away, you seemingly gain nothing from it but misery, seems really dumb. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Kalapse said: So, why exactly do people do this to themselves? You don't need to closely track every player that's been traded away, you seemingly gain nothing from it but misery, seems really dumb. I did it for Caulfield. He needs an ex Sox player to follow with Tatis Jr. out for an extended period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Like I said after the trade it’s plausible Dunning is better than Lynn THIS year. Awful trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 7 hours ago, ron883 said: I did it for Caulfield. He needs an ex Sox player to follow with Tatis Jr. out for an extended period. Now what, you want an upvote for that, lol? Dunning is a pedestrian pitcher over the long term, like a Chris Bassitt, and Balta will make this point about Lynn/Dunning more often than I need to. That said, having Bassitt, Montas and Semien never prevented the A's from making the post-season. And Tatis, as it turns out, isn't going to be out for very long...unless he re-injures it again, in which case he will miss the remainder of the season with surgery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Fine, since you asked... https://www.mlb.com/news/dane-dunning-jonah-heim-stand-out-for-rangers Also, interesting they notice how hard he gets the 2nd/3rd time through and were planning to tandem start him...can’t remember the last time a Sox rookie pitcher threw 51 strikes in 70 pitches...Buehrle? “The right-hander looked like he might be in for a tough night when Bo Bichette clubbed a solo home run off him in the first inning, but that was the only run Dunning allowed in the contest. The 26-year-old was expected to tandem start with Wes Benjamin on Tuesday, but Dunning was efficient enough with his pitch count -- he tossed 70 pitches in total (51 for strikes) -- that he remained in the game long enough to pick up the win. After a solid rookie campaign with the White Sox last season, Dunning is off to a strong start with his new team following an offseason trade. He's next expected to start Monday at Tampa Bay.” cbssports.com Edited April 8, 2021 by caulfield12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 20 hours ago, ron883 said: I did it for Caulfield. He needs an ex Sox player to follow with Tatis Jr. out for an extended period. So you intentionally started a troll thread? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, caulfield12 said: 1. Dunning is a pedestrian pitcher over the long term, like a Chris Bassitt, and Balta will make this point about Lynn/Dunning more often than I need to. 2. That said, having Bassitt, Montas and Semien never prevented the A's from making the post-season. 1. If you can already tell that Dunning is a pedestrian pitcher this early into his career, I congratulate you for your all-seeing ability. That aside, he's still somehow been able to produce more fWAR than the awesome walk machine Dylan Cease over the course of their careers. 2. Holy shit, Chris Bassitt, he of the 1.5 fWAR before TJS, and 4.0 fWAR SINCE TJS [at the league minimum salary] could have PREVENTED the As from making the post-season? Marcus Semien, and his 17.9 fWAR he produced while in Oakland [prior to FA] would have PREVENTED the As from making the post-season?!? Exactly how? Say BTW, what Golden God did those geniuses in the SOX FO get in exchange for giving up ~20 or so fWAR between Bassitt/Semien/Phegley? Did the SOX make the post-season, or did the As make the post-season after that genius move? Did the As end up "mired in mediocrity," or did they laugh their ASSES OFF at the SOX FO? After all, Bassitt [at the league minimum], Semien [at pre-FA prices], and Phegley really fucked the As over, amirite? ...just askin' Edited April 8, 2021 by Two-Gun Pete 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: 1. If you can already tell that Dunning is a pedestrian pitcher this early into his career, I congratulate you for your all-seeing ability. That aside, he's still somehow been able to produce more fWAR than the awesome walk machine Dylan Cease over the course of their careers. 2. Holy shit, Chris Bassitt, he of the 1.5 fWAR before TJS, and 4.0 fWAR SINCE TJS [at the league minimum salary] could have PREVENTED the As from making the post-season? Marcus Semien, and his 17.9 fWAR he produced while in Oakland [prior to FA] would have PREVENTED the As from making the post-season?!? Exactly how? Say BTW, what Golden God did those geniuses in the SOX FO get in exchange for giving up ~20 or so fWAR between Bassitt/Semien/Phegley? Did the SOX make the post-season, or did the As make the post-season after that genius move? Did the As end up "mired in mediocrity," or did they laugh their ASSES OFF at the SOX FO? After all, Bassitt [at the league minimum], Semien [at pre-FA prices], and Phegley really fucked the As over, amirite? ...just askin' Sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 2:47 PM, NCsoxfan said: Like I said after the trade it’s plausible Dunning is better than Lynn THIS year. Awful trade. this one didn't age well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 11:49 AM, EloyJenkins said: this one didn't age well. Oh really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 So is this thread more of a "Hopefully he sucks because I want the Sox to win this trade" or is it a "Good luck to him when he's not pitching for the Sox"? Personally I hope he succeeds, just not against us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, WilliamTell said: So is this thread more of a "Hopefully he sucks because I want the Sox to win this trade" or is it a "Good luck to him when he's not pitching for the Sox"? Personally I hope he succeeds, just not against us. Not really any "winning" unless we 1) sign Lynn to a 2-3 year extension, or 2) don't sign him, extend Gio and/or get enough production from Kopech/AAA-AA to capably replace him in the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Dunning will get absolutely blasted in his next start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Not really any "winning" unless we 1) sign Lynn to a 2-3 year extension, or 2) don't sign him, extend Gio and/or get enough production from Kopech/AAA-AA to capably replace him in the rotation. 3) Lynn is a major part of getting the Sox to the playoffs, and ideally to at least the ALCS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Dunning > Lynn. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 6:16 AM, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Dunning will get absolutely blasted in his next start. Should have bet some money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/36080/dane-dunning Two rough starts in the middle, but has done better than most 4th/5th starters so far...not walking many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 5:52 PM, iWiN4PreP said: Dunning > Lynn. OK. I was wrong. Lynn fucking owns and has made me a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: OK. I was wrong. Lynn fucking owns and has made me a fan. That said, an extension is what makes it a clear win...since it makes this a must-win season with Rodon and Lynn likely on the way out, with only one obvious replacement in Kopech. That said, look at the bargains around baseball. Rodon. T.Walker (signed a two year deal). Desclafini. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/mlb-free-agent-predictions-2021.html Amazing how many bad deals for pitching went down, and how the choices of Lynn and Rodon were almost perfect. Imo, the Giants and White Sox really excelled there in terms of best evaluations and/or a bit of luck or good fortune. These predictions (see above) had Springer and James Paxton going to the Sox, btw. Edited June 4, 2021 by caulfield12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 He's having a nice season and it sucks to give up what looks like a potential very good 3rd starter or worst case solid 4th but Lynn is a legit TOR guy right now. I'm still 50/50 on the trade long term it all depends on if the Sox can get an extension done with Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 17 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: He's having a nice season and it sucks to give up what looks like a potential very good 3rd starter or worst case solid 4th but Lynn is a legit TOR guy right now. I'm still 50/50 on the trade long term it all depends on if the Sox can get an extension done with Lance. After Dunnings first few starts i was pretty pissed we traded him, and that was when Lynn also went to the IL. Now that I have seen Lynn pitch more I absolutely love his game and hes the exact pitcher we need right now. If we extend him im 100% over Dunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Looking at his games im assuming hes on a pitching limit? Consistently see 70-80 pitches before being pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Looking at his games im assuming hes on a pitching limit? Consistently see 70-80 pitches before being pulled. Gets roughed up third time through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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