soxfan49 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:42 PM, Dominikk85 said: Well Vaughn is certainly not an everyday left fielder. It makes sense to only play him in left like 3 times a week. Really the Issue is that this team has 3 DHs. I think one of them (not vaughn) should get traded to make more room for him. Expand So why is he here? It's one thing if he was a hack with no future, like oh I don't know, Nick Williams... but aside from not getting crucial-to-his-development AB's it's going to be burn a year of his Sox career. It sucks. There's no defending this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:47 PM, soxfan49 said: So why is he here? It's one thing if he was a hack with no future, like oh I don't know, Nick Williams... but aside from not getting crucial-to-his-development AB's it's going to be burn a year of his Sox career. It sucks. There's no defending this Expand He's here because the manager doesn't control the 26 man active roster. He's not playing, because our manager has one foot in the grave and has been out of the game throughout the entire statistical revolution. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:42 PM, Balta1701 said: You only burn the year of control if he's on the big league roster. If he's sent down for more than 15-ish days, you get that year of control back. Expand Thank you, sorry @CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:27 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Sample size of 4 and 3 games, respectively. Do you also think Jose is going to hit .207 or Yermin is going to hit .565 this season? Expand OPS last year against lefties was .887, against righties it was .749 and that's with Eloy having an .898 ops against righties. It's still not the biggest sample size in the world but it's absolutely something people were worried about going into the season after Eloy got hurt and so far it's showed through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:42 PM, Dominikk85 said: Well Vaughn is certainly not an everyday left fielder. It makes sense to only play him in left like 3 times a week. Really the Issue is that this team has 3 DHs. I think one of them (not vaughn) should get traded to make more room for him. Expand Then, as we’ve said many times, send him down if he cannot have consistent AB’s. I honestly believe if Eloy was in LF, we’d be having the same discussion with Vaughn and a limited amount of playing time. He might not have even made the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:44 PM, EloyJenkins said: So the billy williams lineup snafu got me thinking....was TLR gonna really start Billy Hamilton over Vaughn today also? that is unreal if true. Expand Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:42 PM, Dominikk85 said: Well Vaughn is certainly not an everyday left fielder. It makes sense to only play him in left like 3 times a week. Really the Issue is that this team has 3 DHs. I think one of them (not vaughn) should get traded to make more room for him. Expand Well, he should be in the lineup at least 80-90% of the time. Not 50% or less like he has been. If he needs to be at DH, so be it. Mercedes takes a seat. Vaughn plays 3-4 days as week is a joke. I never wanted him to break camp with the Sox because 162 is always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 15. But if he is on the roster, the guys needs to be in the fucking lineup. I really have a hard time believing Hahn supports this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:50 PM, Rowand44 said: OPS last year against lefties was .887, against righties it was .749 and that's with Eloy having an .898 ops against righties. It's still not the biggest sample size in the world but it's absolutely something people were worried about going into the season after Eloy got hurt and so far it's showed through. Expand .749 was slightly above league average OPS last season. So slightly above average against righties and top 2 against lefties sounds like enough offense “to contend” if the pitching is as good as anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I grew to be willing to give TLR a Chance, hoping that he wasn’t going to manage like it was 2002. that.....has not been the case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 My weather forecast just got a lot worse, going from 40/20% at 3:00/4:00 to 60/75% at those times. Starting to worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:55 PM, ChiSox59 said: Well, he should be in the lineup at least 80-90% of the time. Not 50% or less like he has been. If he needs to be at DH, so be it. Mercedes takes a seat. Vaughn plays 3-4 days as week is a joke. I never wanted him to break camp with the Sox because 162 is always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 15. But if he is on the roster, the guys needs to be in the fucking lineup. I really have a hard time believing Hahn supports this. Expand Fingers crossed he gets crabby and we get interim manager Super Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:59 PM, 35thstreetswarm said: My weather forecast just got a lot worse, going from 40/20% at 3:00/4:00 to 60/75% at those times. Starting to worry Expand It looks light at that time and just at that time at the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:56 PM, mqr said: I grew to be willing to give TLR a Chance, hoping that he wasn’t going to manage like it was 2002. that.....has not been the case Expand I hate to say it.... but..... give me....... Ricky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:59 PM, mqr said: Fingers crossed he gets crabby and we get interim manager Super Joe Expand If they wanted to go with an older experience winner and did not want to go with Hinch for obvious reasons, I feel like Bochy would have been a fine hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 7:02 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I hate to say it.... but..... give me....... Ricky. Expand I said it when he was hired that I would have never fired ricky for LaRussa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:47 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Why the fuck is he on the 26 then. It should be automatic. Or he should be at the alternate site. Ruining a year for LITERALLY less than 10 starts now is absolutly stupid. Expand On 4/8/2021 at 6:42 PM, Balta1701 said: You only burn the year of control if he's on the big league roster. If he's sent down for more than 15-ish days, you get that year of control back. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dominikk85 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:55 PM, ChiSox59 said: Well, he should be in the lineup at least 80-90% of the time. Not 50% or less like he has been. If he needs to be at DH, so be it. Mercedes takes a seat. Vaughn plays 3-4 days as week is a joke. I never wanted him to break camp with the Sox because 162 is always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 15. But if he is on the roster, the guys needs to be in the fucking lineup. I really have a hard time believing Hahn supports this. Expand Well Mercedes is hitting like . 500 and TLR is not here to develop players. Once Mercedes cools off Vaughn will play more but right now Mercedes is just blocking him. Sending him down now makes no sense either as there is no minor leagues till may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) On 4/8/2021 at 7:10 PM, Dominikk85 said: Well Mercedes is hitting like . 500 and TLR is not here to develop players. Once Mercedes cools off Vaughn will play more but right now Mercedes is just blocking him. Sending him down now makes no sense either as there is no minor leagues till may. Expand Wrong. Billy Hamiliton and Nick Williams appear to be blocking him... Sending him down gains control. Why are we waisting his control sitting him on the bench. Edited April 8, 2021 by Squirmin' for Yermin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 7:12 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Wrong. Billy Hamiliton and Nick Williams appear to be blocking him... Sending him down gains control. Why are we waisting his control sitting him on the bench. Expand You aren't wasting it if you get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 7:12 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Wrong. Billy Hamiliton and Nick Williams appear to be blocking him... Sending him down gains control. Why are we waisting his control sitting him on the bench. Expand Well he isn't sitting on the bench all the time, he has played half of the games. They can still send him down in May when there isn't an everyday spot for him by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 7:10 PM, TheTruth05 said: ? Expand This literally means nothing if you break it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 6:55 PM, ChiSox59 said: Well, he should be in the lineup at least 80-90% of the time. Not 50% or less like he has been. If he needs to be at DH, so be it. Mercedes takes a seat. Vaughn plays 3-4 days as week is a joke. I never wanted him to break camp with the Sox because 162 is always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 15. But if he is on the roster, the guys needs to be in the fucking lineup. I really have a hard time believing Hahn supports this. Expand If Mercedes hasn't been as hot has he has I guarantee Vaughn would be DH more. But he should be in the lineup nearly every day, it is criminal to not have him in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 7:19 PM, Steve9347 said: This literally means nothing if you break it down. Expand It means he thinks he has a better chance to win with Williams in LF than Andrew or Mercedes or Collins at DH . And that Andrew doesn't have enough experience yet but he will play dependent on how he matches up with the opposing pitcher. Doesn't seem that difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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