CentralChamps21 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: Any chance Boston picked up on something Lucas was doing to tip the change? Possibly, but he left a lot of them up and over the plate. Much easier to hit even if you don't know it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Yes. He was up in the count and threw them in the zone and they got destroyed. Did you notice that the change was almost straight? In the past it's had wicked left to right movement. Maybe that's the difference. I'll grant you that pitch location was a minor part of the problem today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Doesn’t that speak to them just sitting on the change? If they were cheating, then would crush the fastball. How do they identify the difference? It's nearly impossible to tell. That's what's suspicious. Gio's change is an 80 grade pitch because hitters can't pick it up......and all of the sudden every Boston hitter can? WTF? Edited April 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Stinky Stanky said: Did you notice that the change was almost straight? In the past it's had wicked left to right movement. Maybe that's the difference. I'll grant you that pitch location was a minor part of the problem today. No doubt, but Gio isn't afraid to throw his change in the middle of the plate because hitters have never been able to pick it up.......the bigger question is how Boston did just that through their entire lineup. Dalbec fouled off a bunch of them in good locations........how? Edited April 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Possibly, but he left a lot of them up and over the plate. Much easier to hit even if you don't know it's coming. Not true. Giolito throws meatball changeups every game and hitters still whiff on it. He throws changeups in the heart of the plate with 2 strikes and hitters usually have no chance. Edited April 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHawks10 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Doesn’t that speak to them just sitting on the change? If they were cheating, then would crush the fastball. You can't really sit on his change... because it looks identical to the fastball until you whiff. That's my point. You have to somehow KNOW it's coming, so you can hold off and let it get to you. The idea with the fastball/change combo is you speed up their eyes and hands looking for the fastball, then when a changeup comes, they're WAY out ahead of it. Edited April 19, 2021 by ChiHawks10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 From what I've seen he's not usually predictable on when he uses the change up, either. He'll throw it in any count. He's either tipping his pitches or Cora is up to his old hi-jinks again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I love TA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) https://www.mlb.com/video/giolito-s-seven-plus-scoreless Look at how Cleveland hitters reacted to his change. He made Jose Ramirez look like an idiot. Tell me how Boston could pick that up? Edited April 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHawks10 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, almagest said: From what I've seen he's not usually predictable on when he uses the change up, either. He'll throw it in any count. He's either tipping his pitches or Cora is up to his old hi-jinks again. I doubt he was tipping. Go back and look at the Cleveland hitters and their reactions to the changeup in his game against them. Like... come on, this is suspicious AF. No one can ever pick up on Gio's changeup, but somehow today, Boston's entire lineup seemed to figure it out? They ALL had the patience to sit back and wait on that pitch, and KNOW it's not a fastball, despite it looking identical to his fastball? I call bullshit. https://www.mlb.com/video/giolito-s-seven-plus-scoreless Edited April 19, 2021 by ChiHawks10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHawks10 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Mercedes pitching. Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Yerminator about to add 0.00 ERA to his impressive resume 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 After he threw his no hitter last year, Jason asked him about what he did the morning after. Apparently, Lucas isn't a morning guy. I think he just had a bad game, and the early start may have played a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 ALL HE DOES IS PITCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHawks10 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Damn I think fathom called this one with Mercedes pitching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 First position player to ever make his debut on the mound? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Kyyle23 said: Damn I think fathom called this one with Mercedes pitching Thought it would be Leury or Vaughn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 How can he enter the game at a position after starting at DH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 So uh are we expecting position players to cover three innings here?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I love the legend of Yermin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: After he threw his no hitter last year, Jason asked him about what he did the morning after. Apparently, Lucas isn't a morning guy. I think he just had a bad game, and the early start may have played a role. Possibly, but that still doesn't explain how one of the most deceptive pitches in all of baseball got identified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Greg Hibbard said: How can he enter the game at a position after starting at DH? They now lose the DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Stealing on a position player probably just gave Tony a stroke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Greg Hibbard said: How can he enter the game at a position after starting at DH? Probably the Sox lose the DH once he gets pulled thus whoever is pitching would have to "hit" in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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