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Bob Sacamano Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Oh boy...we see how that's been working out so far. Gets a day or two off, has a couple good games, average and overall production continues to decrease, rinse and repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 So this thread is a good reminder that the year is long and unrelenting. But some funny stuff at this point in time. Joc after his horrid start is now up to a 106 wRC+, and is now 0.0 WAR. He has been dragged down by poor LF defense, which is consistent with previous years where RF was his strongest place. After a great start, Eaton is hobbling and down to 91 wRC+ and 0.7 WAR driven by strong RF defense, which is good since that fell off quite a bit last year. But here's the funny part to me. Production vs. RHP (Left is Joc, right is Eaton) 123 vs. 111 Production vs. LHP (Left is Joc, Right is Eaton) 45 vs - 14 Funny to me just because of the howling about Joc being a platoon player and eaton being unbelievably bad vs lhp this year (.290 ops, 2 hits all year). In July, I'm sure Eaton gets a few hits off LHP and is just appropriately bad. Now Mazara: 63 wRC+ and -0.5 war. So...fun stuff. The season is long...so so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, bmags said: Funny to me just because of the howling about Joc being a platoon player and eaton being unbelievably bad vs lhp this year (.290 ops, 2 hits all year). Tbf the plan for Eaton was too platoon before they ran out of live bodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgrittenburg Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 5:59 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: It was so painful watching Mazara play last year. What a disappointment he was. Eaton has been about as expected, maybe even a little better. Joc has been a major bust. Maybe there’s a reason it took so long for him to find an interested team last winter. It is interesting how I haven’t heard much about him considering 95% of the board was devastated that the Sox signed Eaton over him. ? Joc took awhile, bue he's doing fine right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Can we get an update on this? Tia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 5:59 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: It was so painful watching Mazara play last year. What a disappointment he was. Eaton has been about as expected, maybe even a little better. Joc has been a major bust. Maybe there’s a reason it took so long for him to find an interested team last winter. It is interesting how I haven’t heard much about him considering 95% of the board was devastated that the Sox signed Eaton over him. ? Still want to play this game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Can we get an update on this? Tia. Sure: Eaton is still an old player in decline. Joc's bat still has some value. Nomar Mazara is still one of the suckiest sucks that ever sucked. It sucked that this FO was stoopud enough to trade for a guy that has always sucked at MLB-level baseball. Edited June 12, 2021 by Two-Gun Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 We should have signed Robbie Grossman instead of Eaton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, chw42 said: We should have signed Robbie Grossman instead of Eaton. Grossman got a two year deal. I don’t like committing two years to a second division starter. Conforto is a pipe dream considering how the Sox operate, but he would be such an amazing fit, but let’s hope against hope that for some reason the Sox want to hand out a 6-7byear deal for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: Grossman got a two year deal. I don’t like committing two years to a second division starter. Conforto is a pipe dream considering how the Sox operate, but he would be such an amazing fit, but let’s hope against hope that for some reason the Sox want to hand out a 6-7byear deal for him. His contract is only 2.5 mil more than Eaton's for 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Should have signed Goodwin to begin with? I dunno. Weird year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Should have signed Goodwin to begin with? I dunno. Weird year. Projected 2021 fWAR 2.2 J. Pederson (Age 29) 1.5 A. Eaton (Age 32) 0.0 B. Goodwin (Age 30) Actual fWAR through yesterday. 2017: JP 0.6; BG 0.5; AE 0.5 2018: JP 2.7; AE 1.9; BG 0.6 2019: JP 3.0; AE 2.4; BG 1.8 2020: BG 0.0; JP -0.1; AE -0.5 2021: AE 0.6; JP 0.5; BG 0.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Projected 2021 fWAR 2.2 J. Pederson (Age 29) 1.5 A. Eaton (Age 32) 0.0 B. Goodwin (Age 30) Actual fWAR through yesterday. 2017: JP 0.6; BG 0.5; AE 0.5 2018: JP 2.7; AE 1.9; BG 0.6 2019: JP 3.0; AE 2.4; BG 1.8 2020: BG 0.0; JP -0.1; AE -0.5 2021: AE 0.6; JP 0.5; BG 0.0 Um, I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 10:20 PM, Two-Gun Pete said: I've seen players suck before, but Mazara just plain sucks. I mean, he's the suckiest suck that ever sucked. I gotta go, my damn wiener kids are listening. this post should have gotten more love at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Um, I was kidding. My post wasn’t an argument for or against, just laying how things stand now, and in the past. I like most wanted Pederson this off-season over Eaton (including as reported Hahn until Pederson turned down Hahn’s offer). Eaton’s performance and health has been as I expected, but his attitude and impact on the clubhouse hasn’t been an issue, so pleased on that front. For the past two seasons, Brian Goodwin has been a very good value in terms of $s per fWAR, and if he performs at the level he has the past two seasons, will be a good value. Quote Brian Goodwin of 1 year/$1M (2021)- White Sox pro rated effective 6/10 for time for service time in majors. 1 year/$2.2M (2020) - won arbitration with LA Angels 2/19/20 1 year/$583,500 (2019) - re-signed by Kansas City 2/22/19 1 year/$553,900 (2018) - re-signed by Washington 3/18 drafted by Washington 2011 (1s-34) (Miami Dade JC) $3M signing bonus agent: MVP Sports ML service: 4.019 Edited June 13, 2021 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 5 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: My post wasn’t an argument for or against, just laying how things stand now, and in the past. I like most wanted Pederson this off-season over Eaton (including as reported Hahn until Pederson turned down Hahn’s offer). Eaton’s performance and health has been as I expected, but his attitude and impact on the clubhouse hasn’t been an issue, so pleased on that front. For the past two seasons, Brian Goodwin has been a very good value in terms of $s per fWAR, and if he performs at the level he has the past two seasons, will be a good value. I think Goodwin's position of CF makes him the play with Vaughn and Engel over Eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: I think Goodwin's position of CF makes him the play with Vaughn and Engel over Eaton. But he’s not a good defender...especially in center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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