caulfield12 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Best comp is the Eeovaldi deal...4 years, something like $70 million. Not sure JR is willing to hand out another Danks possibility if it goes awry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Best comp is the Eeovaldi deal...4 years, something like $70 million. Not sure JR is willing to hand out another Danks possibility if it goes awry. IIRC Eovaldi was 4/80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 So hope CWS retains this guy at this rate, so filthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Rodon's stuff this year is just nasty. Like he has to call Janet "Ms. Jackson." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, lostfan said: Rodon's stuff this year is just nasty. Like he has to call Janet "Ms. Jackson." Nasty, Nasty boys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Hypothetical....if you had the ability to extend today only one of the following, who would you choose: Giolito Lynn Rodon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, wegner said: Hypothetical....if you had the ability to extend today only one of the following, who would you choose: Giolito Lynn Rodon Accounting for all factors, probably Rodon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, wegner said: Hypothetical....if you had the ability to extend today only one of the following, who would you choose: Giolito 1 Lynn 3 Rodon 2 in that order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I would be really nervous giving Rodon a contract like Eovaldi got...there’s just not a long track record of him pitching at the level he currently is. I’d definitely give him a qualifying offer though, so at least the Sox would get a pick if he leaves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 No big contracts are coming off the books after 2021. “The money has been spent.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 9 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I would be really nervous giving Rodon a contract like Eovaldi got...there’s just not a long track record of him pitching at the level he currently is. I’d definitely give him a qualifying offer though, so at least the Sox would get a pick if he leaves. No way in hell for me. I would rather lose him than bet that kind of payroll on a guy who has been over 100 IP 3 times since 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: No way in hell for me. I would rather lose him than bet that kind of payroll on a guy who has been over 100 IP 3 times since 2015. Then betting $125 million on Giolito with lesser stuff (so far this year) and also a TJ in his distant past seems even more dubious. With Rodon, his surgery, at least, was much more recently. If Lynn’s doctoring the ball...per various anecdotal observations, that’s a huge red flag for giving him 2-3 additional seasons at his relatively advanced age. And maybe speaking out against TLR isn’t helping his case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Rodon’s injury history and his representation give me pause in FA. I’d love to retain him but I don’t see both sides finding an amicable agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Then betting $125 million on Giolito with lesser stuff (so far this year) and also a TJ in his distant past seems even more dubious. With Rodon, his surgery, at least, was much more recently. If Lynn’s doctoring the ball...per various anecdotal observations, that’s a huge red flag for giving him 2-3 additional seasons at his relatively advanced age. And maybe speaking out against TLR isn’t helping his case. I'd rather bet $125 on Giolito than $80 million going forward on Rodon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I'd rather bet $125 on Giolito than $80 million going forward on Rodon. Agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 For those who have The Athletic, this is a great read. https://theathletic.com/2605796/2021/05/22/white-sox-pitcher-carlos-rodon-got-fed-up-and-then-he-got-better-somethings-got-to-change-here/?source=dailyemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 10:53 PM, wegner said: Hypothetical....if you had the ability to extend today only one of the following, who would you choose: Giolito Lynn Rodon Giolito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Still a lot of season left so this may work itself out over the course of the next several months but, Sox will have to decide between Rodon and Lynn this offseason. Barring an injury or a completely unforseen trade, you can pretty much lock these 4 guys into the 2022 rotation: Giolito Kopech Cease Keuchel That leaves one spot for Rodon and Lynn, who have been by far our #1 and #2 starters this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 9:27 AM, caulfield12 said: Then betting $125 million on Giolito with lesser stuff (so far this year) and also a TJ in his distant past seems even more dubious. With Rodon, his surgery, at least, was much more recently. If Lynn’s doctoring the ball...per various anecdotal observations, that’s a huge red flag for giving him 2-3 additional seasons at his relatively advanced age. And maybe speaking out against TLR isn’t helping his case. He isn't doctoring the ball LOL come on. He is doing what all of the league is doing because MLB is letting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, KrankinSox said: Still a lot of season left so this may work itself out over the course of the next several months but, Sox will have to decide between Rodon and Lynn this offseason. Barring an injury or a completely unforseen trade, you can pretty much lock these 4 guys into the 2022 rotation: Giolito Kopech Cease Keuchel That leaves one spot for Rodon and Lynn, who have been by far our #1 and #2 starters this season. I don't know we have to decide. Like you said, lots of baseball yet to be played but if they keep up the good work, I'd definitely try to extend them both, beginning with Lynn. If Rodon stays healthy the rest of the way and continues to perform at current level, he will be among the most highly sought after FAs after '21. Unlikely JR will cough up what it will take but you have to try...if not, certainly give him a QO. No need to worry about Gio anytime soon (controled through '23). Its also possible Crochet figures into the mix for '21 and beyond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Rodon's agent is Scott Boros. That means Free Agency for Carlos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I would love it if Rodon accepted a qualifying offer. At least if he doesnt we should recoup a pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, raBBit said: I would love it if Rodon accepted a qualifying offer. At least if he doesnt we should recoup a pick. That would be nice, but we don't even know if that will still be a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Carlos Rodón, LHP, White Sox Key stat: 35.2% swing-and-miss rate It took years of ups and downs, injuries and a brief foray into free agency last offseason, but Rodón is finally delivering on the promise that made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2014 Draft. And this version of Rodón? Worth the wait. Among pitchers with 40-plus innings, the lefty ranks among MLB’s top five in ERA (1.27), Statcast’s expected ERA (2.12), strikeout rate (37.3%) and opponent batting average (.148). Simply put, Rodón is dominating, and it’s not just the no-hitter, either. After a hiccup on May 15 against the Royals, Rodón was right back at it in his last start, blitzing through the Yankees’ lineup in the Bronx for 13 strikeouts and no walks in six scoreless innings. Many pitchers have one bat-missing pitch, but the new-and-improved Rodón has three yielding a whiff rate over 30%: a four-seamer with career-best velocity (95.1 mph), a slider that’s held opponents to 1-for-46 and a changeup to keep righties honest. With those weapons, this doesn’t look like a fluky hot streak. It looks like the start of a thrilling second act. -- Andrew Simon https://www.mlb.com/news/the-2021-breakout-players-to-believe-in?partnerId=zh-20210526-156906-MLB&qid=1026&bt_ee=HLweXSSBO9LKNtiiKwUJK6Xnz%2BPTSW7sU%2B2Sf1XJ4%2FGfWFUvnagST216ars1EMrY&bt_ts=1622029293202 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) On 5/22/2021 at 2:04 PM, Jack Parkman said: IIRC Eovaldi was 4/80. It was 4/68. If the Sox could sign Rodon to something similar, in the event he finishes the year healthy, they’d be foolish not to. Guys like Eovaldi have nowhere near Rodon’s upside. Even if it’s risky it’s highly unlikely a player that can do what Rodon can do is signing for that amount. Edited May 26, 2021 by Vulture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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