caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 hours ago, ejm3 said: My bad, Bummer should have been on here but he isn't a FA until '27. Grandal is not on here for obvious reasons because he cant be a FA soon enough. He has the highest contract on this team and unfortunately it's not up until 2024. Rodon and Lynn are FA's and that will be important to keep both of them, provided Rodon stays healthy and keeps this up. Lynn is the key one because Hahn gave away a young future talented pitcher in Dane Dunning to get Lynn. Btw, how brilliant was Theo for the Cubs? Yes he won the '16 WS, but he never tied up any of his core players with Rizzo, Bryant, Contreras and Baez all being FA's in 2022 and probably all leaving. Btw, Hahn has only had the total decision making power since the start of the rebuild and in year 4 which was last year and year 5 this year, I think he has put a great team together to contend for several years...with many all locked up. Whether it's brilliant or not..it surely deserves more credit than you are giving him. Except he really doesn't have control anymore. Eaton and Lynn, 100% TLR adds/suggestions. If he actually did have that power, LaRussa wouldn't be manager, someone like Hinch or Bruce Bochy would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 From Reddit: Big takeaways: - Central is the Sox for the taking - This is without the power showing up, and we know the Sox have power. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Quin said: From Reddit: Thanks for sharing this, helps some folks see that our run differential is made up of both a good offense AND good pitching. But this graphic is also killing me that the "best" quadrant is bottom-right, not positioned in the top-right. Creator needs to flip that X axis! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Thanks for sharing this, helps some folks see that our run differential is made up of both a good offense AND good pitching. But this graphic is also killing me that the "best" quadrant is bottom-right, not positioned in the top-right. Creator needs to flip that X axis! Sox are only team that is > 0.5 runs better than average at both. And Detroit . . . wow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Sox are only team that is > 0.5 runs better than average at both. And Detroit . . . wow. Also the Royals, not built to last with that pitching other than Duffy, who can never seem to stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Sox are only team that is > 0.5 runs better than average at both. And Detroit . . . wow. Yeah they are all by themselves over in that extreme area of bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"The Kids Can Play" Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 13 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Except he really doesn't have control anymore. Eaton and Lynn, 100% TLR adds/suggestions. If he actually did have that power, LaRussa wouldn't be manager, someone like Hinch or Bruce Bochy would. As far as Eaton and Lynn go and I wont debate Eaton has he isn't worth the energy. I think Lance Lynn was all Hahn. Just because Lynn played for TLR many years ago, doesn't mean TLR called Hahn and told him to trade for Lynn. Texas openly was trying to trade Lynn to any suiters. since Lyn was going into his year before being a FA. Hahn just stepped in knowing he was all in to win the world series and figured trading Dunning was worth it to get a accomplished solid starter. Just because LaRussa is the manager doesn't mean Rick H lost his decision making power. We all know this was Jerry's pompous and senile decision to make good to his buddy for a horrible decision Jerry made 35 yrs ago not stopping Hawk from firing Tony in the first place. Let's not be naïve and think Hahn didn't have a long conversation to attempt to talk Jerry out of this buffoon idea. In the end, if the owner orders you to hire TLR, then you need to hire him no matter how insanely absurd it is. I truly believe that if this wasn't pushed down his throat, Hinch or Bochy would be the manager today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Early returns on Detroit's rebuild are brutal. Hate to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, raBBit said: Early returns on Detroit's rebuild are brutal. Hate to see it. The real keys are Torkelson, Riley Greene and Manning...but Mize has definitely underwhelmed, Skubal, too. Boyd will undoubtedly fetch back something nice but unlikely amazing at the deadline. Hinch must be wondering if he really knew what he was getting into...likely gets one more final shot after this with another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The real keys are Torkelson, Riley Greene and Manning...but Mize has definitely underwhelmed, Skubal, too. Boyd will undoubtedly fetch back something nice but unlikely amazing at the deadline. Hinch must be wondering if he really knew what he was getting into...likely gets one more final shot after this with another team. I think you're grossly underestimating the shelf life of a MLB manager. Even if Detroit burns under his watch, he'll get another shot... and another... and another. Might be a stint as a bench coach in there, but teams love "World Series experience" on the resume of managerial retreads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Thanks for sharing this, helps some folks see that our run differential is made up of both a good offense AND good pitching. But this graphic is also killing me that the "best" quadrant is bottom-right, not positioned in the top-right. Creator needs to flip that X axis! yeah good try on that graphic.. but it's poorly designed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, raBBit said: Early returns on Detroit's rebuild are brutal. Hate to see it. They have negative position player fWAR. Torkelson could be Mike Trout next year and they still win 72 games. They suck and their rebuild is going nowhere except to another 1:1 draft pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 1. WHITE SOX 64 2. Astros 44 3. LAD 40 4. SFG 31 5. Toronto 30 6. Boston 29 7. SDP 27 8. StL 25 Edited May 13, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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