caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) Minor throws so many damn offspeed pitches, you just had a feeling Sox hitters might struggle. We’ll see, but lifetime numbers against him aren’t that encouraging. Lucas seems to have lost all the swagger of 2019-20. Now he just lost a count that started out 0-2 to walkmaster Santana. Edited May 9, 2021 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony said: I don’t care how good the rest of the starters are going, if Gio isn’t the Gio we know, the Sox aren’t going anywhere. They need to figure this out, ASAP. Kinda like how Mercedes has carried Abreu. We know Rodon has carried Giolito, but it’s foolish to think it will continue all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Had him 0-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 93 right down the middle, not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 His fastball command is horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Kinda like how Mercedes has carried Abreu. We know Rodon has carried Giolito, but it’s foolish to think it will continue all season. And it’s fine that it happened thus far. Happens all the time where stars under perform, it’s up to the other guys to pick up the slack. But at some point the stars needs to act like stars. Everyone struggles, but this is getting concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Soler and/or Perez will go deep off Lucas today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 he can't put anybody away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Kinda like how Mercedes has carried Abreu. We know Rodon has carried Giolito, but it’s foolish to think it will continue all season. Well, if this is the real Cease...maybe. But beating Cole, Severino and Kluber seems pretty challenging unless Jimenez and Robert are both 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Giolito is officially worrisome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Using catcher ERA when 1 bad start makes all the difference is ridiculous. Are you saying Gio would have not had a bad start if Collins caught him vs Boston? And I personally feel a CERA of 0.90 is pretty good. It would indicate to me the pitcher is pretty comfortable with the catcher. Since Grandal has been on base 13 times his last 4 games the haters have to find something I guess, no matter how ridiculous it is. “Haters”, or people who actually know the game. Apparently the best GM in the game is a “buffoon” for sitting his ass in the postseason, as is Steve Stone and others who have pointed out his clear weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Sale Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Gio has nothing to put away Solar here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, Tony said: And it’s fine that it happened thus far. Happens all the time where stars under perform, it’s up to the other guys to pick up the slack. But at some point the stars needs to act like stars. Everyone struggles, but this is getting concerning. Seems like he had an extra 2 mph on those high fastballs last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 can he throw a curveball anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Soler almost hit that one 500 feet. Two homers against Giolito lifetime already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 this is painful to watch. Soler is going to take him deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 93 in the zone isn’t gonna miss bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 so do they just let Lucas wear it today or will they manage to win the game if he can't go more than 4 innings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Seems like he had an extra 2 mph on those high fastballs last year Or even 3-4 mph at times. But there was life/spin rate/extension/explosiveness to his pitches. Still searching or feeling for every pitch, seemingly. Just not comfortable on the mound right now. Edited May 9, 2021 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, elrockinMT said: I think Giolito might be washed up. On wait a minute he gets a double play so never mind Lol cmon man, you are overly positive to a point where you ignore reality often time. It's ridiculous seeing you mock people who are on the other side of the aisle (pessimists). Edited May 9, 2021 by ron883 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Using catcher ERA when 1 bad start makes all the difference is ridiculous. Are you saying Gio would have not had a bad start if Collins caught him vs Boston? And I personally feel a CERA of 0.90 is pretty good. It would indicate to me the pitcher is pretty comfortable with the catcher. Since Grandal has been on base 13 times his last 4 games the haters have to find something I guess, no matter how ridiculous it is. Remember, when pitchers have command problems or fading velocity that’s 100% on Yasmani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: “Haters”, or people who actually know the game. Apparently the best GM in the game is a “buffoon” for sitting his ass in the postseason, as is Steve Stone and others who have pointed out his clear weaknesses. Thanks for proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Oh, Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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