caulfield12 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Moncada 6.0 Abreu/TA 3.9 Mercedes 3.3 (probably 3.6 or 3.9 after last night) Robert 3.0 (from just one month) Grandal 3.0 Madrigal 2.4 Eaton 2.1 Vaughn 1.8 (should end up higher, missed a lot of at-bats early) Mendick 1.2 Hamilton 0.6 Collins 0.0 Leury -0.6 Rodon 6.0 Lynn 3.9 Cease 3.6 or 3.9 (updates tmrw) Kopech/Gio 2.7 Keuchel/Hendriks 1.5 Heuer 1.2 Ruiz, Crochet, Bummer 0.6 Foster 0.3 Marshall -0.6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 6war for Rodon would likely mean he would reject the QO right, can't imagine it would be enough for Boras. 6war, sheesh Edited May 28, 2021 by joesaiditstrue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: 6war for Rodon would likely mean he would reject the QO right, can't imagine it would be enough for Boras. 6war, sheesh Yes, he will get a number of 2-4 year (max) offers from other teams...with top value likely to be around 4 and $70-85 million, depending upon how he finishes out the season and playoffs. Giolito is going to be a tough one. All things considered, Lynn is the best bet, but then you have his age...wondering when the "fall off a cliff" point is, his conditioning issues, allegations (like everyone in baseball) about movement/unnatural spin rates due to foreign substances. Assuming the QO system is still around after the CBA is re-opened, we would at least get some compensation back for Rodon and Lynn via draft picks. Edited May 28, 2021 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credezcrew24 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Yes, he will get a number of 2-4 year (max) offers from other teams...with top value likely to be around 4 and $70-85 million, depending upon how he finishes out the season and playoffs. Giolito is going to be a tough one. All things considered, Lynn is the best bet, but then you have his age...wondering when the "fall off a cliff" point is, his conditioning issues, allegations (like everyone in baseball) about movement/unnatural spin rates due to foreign substances. Assuming the QO system is still around after the CBA is re-opened, we would at least get some compensation back for Rodon and Lynn via draft picks. Lynn has already declined a QO. The White Sox can't offer him one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, credezcrew24 said: Lynn has already declined a QO. The White Sox can't offer him one. Oh, that’s right, so he has a lot of leverage with Hahn since Giolito and Rodon both would be really tough extensions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Moncada 6.6 Abreu 4.8 TA7 4.2 Mercedes/Grandal 3.3 Luis Robert 3.0 Madrigal 2.4 Eaton 2.1 Vaughn 1.8 Lamb 1.2 Mendick/Hamilton 0.9 Collins 0.0 Leury -0.3 Rodon 6.0 Lynn 4.8 Cease 3.9 Giolito will be 3.0 or 3.3 after yesterday Kopech 2.7 Hendriks 2.1 Heuer 1.2 Keuchel/Crochet/Ruiz/Bummer 0.6 Foster 0.3 Marshall 0.0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Crazy how many contributors this squad has all down the roster. Kudos to the FO so far they haven't just survived the bad injury blows they have thrived. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Moncada 6.6 Abreu 4.8 TA7 4.2 Mercedes/Grandal 3.3 Luis Robert 3.0 Madrigal 2.4 Eaton 2.1 Vaughn 1.8 Lamb 1.2 Mendick/Hamilton 0.9 Collins 0.0 Leury -0.3 Rodon 6.0 Lynn 4.8 Cease 3.9 Giolito will be 3.0 or 3.3 after yesterday Kopech 2.7 Hendriks 2.1 Heuer 1.2 Keuchel/Crochet/Ruiz/Bummer 0.6 Foster 0.3 Marshall 0.0 Too bad Madrigal sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, hi8is said: Too bad Madrigal sucks. I would imagine Madrigal is moving to a 2.7-3.0 projection after yesterday's DHer. Updates in the morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/28/2021 at 7:34 AM, joesaiditstrue said: 6war for Rodon would likely mean he would reject the QO right, can't imagine it would be enough for Boras. 6war, sheesh Teams won't forget his injury history though. He has a good age but his injury history will drag him down. I think best case for him is what eovaldi got (4/70 or so). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: I would imagine Madrigal is moving to a 2.7-3.0 projection after yesterday's DHer. Updates in the morning... Guess it’s too bad Madrigal sucks more then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 4 hours ago, hi8is said: Guess it’s too bad Madrigal sucks more then. New numbers updated... Moncada 6.9 TA7 4.5 Grandal/Yermin 3.0 Madrigal 2.7 Eaton 2.4 Giolito 3.3 Crochet 0.9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 What is McCann on pace for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: What is McCann on pace for? -0.3 Joc Pederson 0.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: -0.3 Joc Pederson 0.0 On the other hand our old friend Omar Narvaez is on pace for around 4.5. Guess his defense has really improved good for him he could always hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 7 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Madrigal 2.7 He sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I don’t consider fWAR valuable for projecting a pace / rest of the season (simply multiplying current fWAR by (162 / games played). Doesn’t take into account injuries and the inevitable slumps and hit streaks in a season, short changes players who started slow, exaggerates performance for a hot start. Thought it was nonsense to multiply 2020 fWAR by 2.7 to state that was the players “true” 2020 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: On the other hand our old friend Omar Narvaez is on pace for around 4.5. Guess his defense has really improved good for him he could always hit. Don’t look at Semien, Bassitt, Eduardo Escobar, Padres, etc. Omar Narvaez=3.8 fWAR (2019-21) Alex Colome=0.8 fWAR Frankie Montas=4.8 WAR (2018-21) Bassitt=7.1 fWAR (with A’s) Edited June 1, 2021 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roncag Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I love these. Please keep them coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, roncag said: I love these. Please keep them coming. Yet Another Ron? Who’s next, LeFlore? Blomberg? Edited June 5, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Yet Another Ron? Who’s next, LeFlore? Blomberg? Swanson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roncag Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Yet Another Ron? Who’s next, LeFlore? Blomberg? I need to change my handle.....ughh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 2 hours ago, roncag said: I love these. Please keep them coming. Welcome to the forums good sir! Enjoy your stay! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, roncag said: I need to change my handle.....ughh No you don't. You're in fine company. Ignore everything caulfield says. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 hours ago, roncag said: I love these. Please keep them coming. Welcome to fucking Soxtalk! Can be combative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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