South Side Hit Men Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) https://theathletic.com/2606689/2021/05/23/white-sox-notes-billy-hamilton-and-tim-anderson-zack-collins-and-carlos-rodon-dylan-cease-has-growing-left-to-do/?source=emp_shared_article&redirected=1 Excellent article, as always, by James Fegan today related to the post no hitter gifts given by Carlos Rodon, Jerry Reinsdorf and artist Cody Sabol (commemorative paintings for the two players). Jerry to Carlos and Zach: Nice rings commemorating the no hitter. Rodon to Zach: Engraved commemorative watch and putter. Rodon to the entire team: Special Johnnie Walker Blue Bottles engraved with the No Hitter Date. Perhaps the biggest gift Carlos handed out were his well earned compliments of Zach Collins. Quote “He calls a good game, he knows how to call (one) for me and knows how I feature those pitches, how to tunnel them,” Rodón said. “Just we’re on the same page, man, it makes it easy to groove with him. He’s progressed a lot as a catcher. We’ve known he can swing it. He swung it in college. And the defensive aspect, it’s really grown over the last couple years here, especially game-calling and receiving. It’s been a pleasure to throw to him.” Edited June 2, 2021 by South Side Hit Men 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 But jr is a cheap ass and Rodon won’t give a shit next year when his agent shops him. So soxtalk will probably blast jr and say he needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, quickman said: But jr is a cheap ass and Rodon won’t give a shit next year when his agent shops him. So soxtalk will probably blast jr and say he needs to go. Man you have gotten easily offendable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Love that Carlos is wearing a Yerminator tshirt. Great story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 50 minutes ago, quickman said: But jr is a cheap ass and Rodon won’t give a shit next year when his agent shops him. So soxtalk will probably blast jr and say he needs to go. You probably won't like what I have to say and frankly, I don't like saying it. There's a saying that goes you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. The nicer JR is to Rodon now perhaps it greases the wheels to resigning him. It's kind of like the family and friends plan they tried with Machado. JR is a smart business man. A small investment in the short term can pay dividends in the long term. I believe this move by JR can be genuine however I cannot eliminate the possibility of an ulterior motive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You probably won't like what I have to say and frankly, I don't like saying it. There's a saying that goes you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. The nicer JR is to Rodon now perhaps it greases the wheels to resigning him. It's kind of like the family and friends plan they tried with Machado. JR is a smart business man. A small investment in the short term can pay dividends in the long term. I believe this move by JR can be genuine however I cannot eliminate the possibility of an ulterior motive. I agree with this 100%. It doesn’t work with everyone but to some people gestures like this mean a lot. It doesn’t even necessarily mean he has to have an ulterior motive. From everything you hear about JR when you are actually one of his employees he is an extremely nice, generous and loyal guy....sometimes to a fault. He is an old school businessman that probably thinks if you make it a family like atmosphere people won’t want to leave. It has worked with guys like Abreu...he pretty much said in the off-season he wasn’t going anywhere no matter what the Sox said. Outside we think JR is a cheap owner looking to make money, but inside it is probably a different feeling.....maybe with an exception of how players feel about LaRussa. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, BFirebird said: I agree with this 100%. It doesn’t work with everyone but to some people gestures like this mean a lot. It doesn’t even necessarily mean he has to have an ulterior motive. From everything you hear about JR when you are actually one of his employees he is an extremely nice, generous and loyal guy....sometimes to a fault. He is an old school businessman that probably thinks if you make it a family like atmosphere people won’t want to leave. It has worked with guys like Abreu...he pretty much said in the off-season he wasn’t going anywhere no matter what the Sox said. Outside we think JR is a cheap owner looking to make money, but inside it is probably a different feeling.....maybe with an exception of how players feel about LaRussa. Paulie handing that baseball to Jerry was a gesture that worked for both of them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I think classy moves are the proper classification and I would leave it at that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 42 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You probably won't like what I have to say and frankly, I don't like saying it. There's a saying that goes you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. The nicer JR is to Rodon now perhaps it greases the wheels to resigning him. It's kind of like the family and friends plan they tried with Machado. JR is a smart business man. A small investment in the short term can pay dividends in the long term. I believe this move by JR can be genuine however I cannot eliminate the possibility of an ulterior motive. JR is known to be very good to his employees. Most people on this board think he is too loyal. I don't doubt the sincerity of the gesture. Doesn't mean it can't serve two purposes though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Any high res shots of the gifts? I don’t have the athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, quickman said: But jr is a cheap ass and Rodon won’t give a shit next year when his agent shops him. So soxtalk will probably blast jr and say he needs to go. Yeah a billionaire spends a few thousand on two rings for his players, dude is LOOSE. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, ptatc said: JR is known to be very good to his employees. Most people on this board think he is too loyal. I don't doubt the sincerity of the gesture. Doesn't mean it can't serve two purposes though. Oh I know his rep to his employees which is why I didn't really like mentioning a possible dual purpose, which is more polite way of saying an ulterior motive. My words made it sound more sinister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Oh I know his rep to his employees which is why I didn't really like mentioning a possible dual purpose, which is more polite way of saying an ulterior motive. My words made it sound more sinister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Man you have gotten easily offendable. No just stating what this forum does . Very judgmental to what you want the narrative to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You probably won't like what I have to say and frankly, I don't like saying it. There's a saying that goes you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. The nicer JR is to Rodon now perhaps it greases the wheels to resigning him. It's kind of like the family and friends plan they tried with Machado. JR is a smart business man. A small investment in the short term can pay dividends in the long term. I believe this move by JR can be genuine however I cannot eliminate the possibility of an ulterior motive. I think many agents have a lot of sway. If the Sox are very competitive, I can see Rodon giving a hometown discount. But with his injury history, I am sure the agent will be advising him that he needs to get all the security he can in length and money on the next contract. Good for Carlos that he may get the chance to somewhat secure his future with a good deal if he can stay healthy this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just now, quickman said: No just stating what this forum does . Very judgmental to what you want the narrative to be Yet here you are passing absolutely no judgment on the forum you are posting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yet here you are passing absolutely no judgment on the forum you are posting on. And there is the rub because if a person disagrees with you you have an answer but you rebut and discredit the person to begin with. Typical you. That’s fine. I deal with differences daily . I am good with that. I just think he did a good thing and meant it and I think he always has meant it . Just because he has money doesn’t mean he has to spend it like soxtalk fans want him too. Go root for another team. Why are you hanging around such loser south side people . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, quickman said: And there is the rub because if a person disagrees with you you have an answer but you rebut and discredit the person to begin with. Typical you. That’s fine. I deal with differences daily . I am good with that. I just think he did a good thing and meant it and I think he always has meant it . Just because he has money doesn’t mean he has to spend it like soxtalk fans want him too. Go root for another team. Why are you hanging around such loser south side people . You literally discredited the entire forum in your first post, but don't let that stop a mediocre rant. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: You literally discredited the entire forum in your first post, but don't let that stop a mediocre rant. No problem your the mediator speaking for all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, quickman said: No problem your the mediator speaking for all. 4 hours ago, quickman said: But jr is a cheap ass and Rodon won’t give a shit next year when his agent shops him. So soxtalk will probably blast jr and say he needs to go. 23 minutes ago, quickman said: No just stating what this forum does . Very judgmental to what you want the narrative to be 15 minutes ago, quickman said: And there is the rub because if a person disagrees with you you have an answer but you rebut and discredit the person to begin with. Typical you. That’s fine. I deal with differences daily . I am good with that. I just think he did a good thing and meant it and I think he always has meant it . Just because he has money doesn’t mean he has to spend it like soxtalk fans want him too. Go root for another team. Why are you hanging around such loser south side people . So 3 times you call out Soxtalk and then "Loser south side people", yet I am speaking for "all"? Um, sure. Not sure why you are here with all of these people you are calling losers, but sure, I am the one who is discrediting people. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Sinister, ulterior motives? Really? That is really cray-cray. The entire narrative that "Jerry won't spend the money on player contracts to build a winner" is predicated on the assumption that there is a 1:1 correlation between player salary and winning percentage. It also presumes that other teams won't simply match price and in turn, cause salary inflation which could reduce the profitability and viability of the weaker franchises. There has to be a balance to make things work for the league. Anyway, commemorating outstanding player performances (including no-hitters) with a ring has been a tradition that Jerry established at least as far back as Humber's perfect game. Giolito and McCann got rings for Gio's perfect game. How about Cub Curmudgeon Joe Ricketts and bis overt support of certain extremely divisive politicians ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 The vibes in that clubhouse are pretty special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) JR did the same thing for Giolito and McCann last year. This isn't nothing new. Edited June 4, 2021 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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