Dominikk85 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I hope Hahn will not sit on his ass this deadline again. I certainly support don’t breaking the bank and keep the top5 prospects but the market for rentals has been very cheap the last years. Thus I would hope he gets at least two rentals this deadline (a 2b and a relief pitcher). Just keep the major leaguers and young high upside prospects like Kelley and Bailey and be aggressive in shipping away the 22-25 yo prospects which are not top 100 and haven't made the majors yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 He will at least add a reliever at the deadline, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 With a very good team and more certainty (ie not a shortened / COVID lockdown season) I am sure he will be more active. As far as what kinds of moves are made, i'm sure he'll give his same speech about "the long term vision for this franchise", but he should absolutely be looking at guys on expiring contracts to patch the roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I 100% do not support the Sox draining what is left of the interesting guys on the farm just to acquire some guy who is maybe an equal or lesser version that the guys we already have here or who are coming back. E.g. why give up a ton to try to replace Robert? Same with Eloy. Why give up a lot for a RP also who is probably worse than Codi Heuer if/when Codi gets it back together? Etc. Mendick is fine as a Madrigal replacement. Eduardo Escobar is a great add and probably inevitable. Someone who can be acquired cheaply, add pop, cover a few positions, etc. that is a great get. Also a spot starter to replace one of the garbage men is a good call, but only if it is really cheap. Lambert IMO looked good overall last time out in MLB. He might even be an answer. Burr might even be an improvement over Marshall. We already might have some help here It's not like we are playing in a division with the Rays, Red Sox and Yankees. Or with the Dodgers and Padres, etc. The Twins are the guppies and CLE's cheapass FO is still just hoping to hit a swoon and dump salary. For all of the bad fortune with injuries this year, there is a lot of good fortune in playing in a division where 2 teams aren't trying at all, 1 is half-assing it at best, and the other who was supposed to challenge us fell on their faces right off the starting line and still haven't gotten back up. Of all of the years where there is reason to hold onto the better-looking/more interesting pieces, this is one. That said I expect a couple smaller deals. Eduardo will come back here as one of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I think a reliever is a foregone conclusion. Possibly two. I think a guy like Escobar or Asdrubal Cabrera is more likely than Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 We still need an OF upgrade even if Robert & Eloy come back. Eaton is now below .200 BA wise with an 89 wRC+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 What happened to Eaton? Has he quit on baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, Unknown said: What happened to Eaton? Has he quit on baseball? probably dealing with minor, nagging injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"The Kids Can Play" Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, Unknown said: What happened to Eaton? Has he quit on baseball? He was already going downhill last year with the Nationals, as he only hit .226 last year in the shortened '20 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: I 100% do not support the Sox draining what is left of the interesting guys on the farm just to acquire some guy who is maybe an equal or lesser version that the guys we already have here or who are coming back. E.g. why give up a ton to try to replace Robert? Same with Eloy. Why give up a lot for a RP also who is probably worse than Codi Heuer if/when Codi gets it back together? Etc. Mendick is fine as a Madrigal replacement. Eduardo Escobar is a great add and probably inevitable. Someone who can be acquired cheaply, add pop, cover a few positions, etc. that is a great get. Also a spot starter to replace one of the garbage men is a good call, but only if it is really cheap. Lambert IMO looked good overall last time out in MLB. He might even be an answer. Burr might even be an improvement over Marshall. We already might have some help here It's not like we are playing in a division with the Rays, Red Sox and Yankees. Or with the Dodgers and Padres, etc. The Twins are the guppies and CLE's cheapass FO is still just hoping to hit a swoon and dump salary. For all of the bad fortune with injuries this year, there is a lot of good fortune in playing in a division where 2 teams aren't trying at all, 1 is half-assing it at best, and the other who was supposed to challenge us fell on their faces right off the starting line and still haven't gotten back up. Of all of the years where there is reason to hold onto the better-looking/more interesting pieces, this is one. That said I expect a couple smaller deals. Eduardo will come back here as one of them. I don't want to sound like an alarmist but I think I have to. This appears to be the year in which the Sox have to try to win the World Series. The starting pitching will never be as good or as cheap as it is now. Escobar and Iglesias (Angels RP) would be huge gets and the Sox should do whatever they have to do to get them or the equivalent. Escobar may not have the on base skills of some on the team but he would easily be leading the Sox in HR's. Getting him should be a no brainer. Switch hitting power guy who can play 2nd, 3rd and SS in a pinch and a free agent after the year. He's a rental which is perfect. The season is basically over for Madrigal. Sorry Danny I love ya but the Sox have needs to fill and you don't fit the bill . The need for LH power to upgrade the Sox record against RHSP is a true necessity as is relief pitching. Do whatever you must to upgrade. The future is now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I wonder what the Arizona GM situation means for them between now and the deadline. Find it hard to believe they’ll move Ketel Marte with a sub in that chair, but maybe Escobar. He mostly plays third for AZ. Is he even adequate at second anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 RH RP and 2B are guarantees. If they can find an Eaton replacement in those moves too, that will get done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Timmy U said: I wonder what the Arizona GM situation means for them between now and the deadline. Find it hard to believe they’ll move Ketel Marte with a sub in that chair, but maybe Escobar. He mostly plays third for AZ. Is he even adequate at second anymore? The D-Backs will move all their guys on expiring deals regardless of who is GM, but I agree it probably takes Marte off the table. As for Escobar, he’s made 20 starts at 2B this year and the advanced metrics really like his defense there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Pal said: RH RP and 2B are guarantees. If they can find an Eaton replacement in those moves too, that will get done. Have you heard any specific names Pal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The D-Backs will move all their guys on expiring deals regardless of who is GM, but I agree it probably takes Marte off the table. As for Escobar, he’s made 20 starts at 2B this year and the advanced metrics really like his defense there. Awesome. Seems like a good fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Have you heard any specific names Pal? Escobar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, reiks12 said: probably dealing with minor, nagging injuries Just put his ass on the IL and let him rest up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Pal said: Escobar Awesome...just feels like a perfect match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 James on the money as usual...definitely my top two targets for the offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 They would be acquiring Escobar to play 2B, right? I don’t believe he’s ever played RF at the MLB level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: James on the money as usual...definitely my top two targets for the offense Just to expand on this, imagine this lineup: Anderson, SS Robert, CF Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B Jimenez, R Grandal, C# Marte, RF Vaughn, LF Escobar, 2B# 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just to expand on this, imagine this lineup: Anderson, SS Robert, CF Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B Jimenez, R Grandal, C# Marte, RF Vaughn, LF Escobar, 2B# Looks like a World Series winning lineup to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I love how we have 14 versions of the same thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: James on the money as usual...definitely my top two targets for the offense What exactly does he mean by this? Does he mean he hears rumblings about the 2nd scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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