2Deep Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 This is good. If it all goes according to plan then he would be here end of July. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 They've been targeting both to come back in August. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 To have both Robert and Eloy back for about 2 months before the playoffs would be huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: How awesome would it be if his first game back is the Field of Dreams game? It actually seems plausible with this new timetable! If he is back by then, he better be playing DH for that game (and hopefully most from there on out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Heads22 said: Say a month of "baseball activity" and a 2 to 3 week rehab stint? Maybe the first to second week of August? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: he had surgery in what, middle of march? so he's now 3 months out of surgery and is probably resuming some baseball activities. He still has a long way to go as you noted. He needs at least 60 days to ramp up and build strength and ROM. I stilll think early Sep is the plan. Get him 20 games at the MLB level, 10 or so in AAA and hopefully he's in some sort of a good spot for the playoffs. "10 or so in AAA." Don't agree with the length of that rehab assignment. I'd say a week. At the most. 5 at bats a game will give him 35 at bats against live pitching to get his timing back. That's fine. If he's already resuming baseball activities, he's already in the cage. Don't agree that he needs to face minor league pitching for 2 weeks. Edited June 14, 2021 by Soxsi75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Soxsi75 said: "10 or so in AAA." Don't agree with the length of that rehab assignment. I'd say a week. At the most. 5 at bats a game will give him 35 at bats against live pitching to get his timing back. That's fine. If he's already resuming baseball activities, he's already in the cage. Don't agree that he needs to face minor league pitching for 2 weeks. He hasn't seen a live pitch in almost 3 months. If he does "baseball activity" for a month before rehab, it will mean he will have been away from baseball for almost 4 months. He needs more than a week to get back into the swing of things. There is a big difference between hitting in the cage against low minor leaguers or soft toss, versus actually seeing some game speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Rehab assignments can only last 20 days, so if all goes well, Eloy will be hitting bombs and saying hi to hi mom the first or second week of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He hasn't seen a live pitch in almost 3 months. If he does "baseball activity" for a month before rehab, it will mean he will have been away from baseball for almost 4 months. He needs more than a week to get back into the swing of things. There is a big difference between hitting in the cage against low minor leaguers or soft toss, versus actually seeing some game speed. "He needs more than a week to get back into the swing of things." Disagree. I've heard many hitters say that the length of spring training is too long and they only really need about a week to get their timing back and they've been away from "baseball activity" for about 5 months with the off season. Not trying to downplay the importance of it. But two weeks? No sir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Soxsi75 said: "He needs more than a week to get back into the swing of things." Disagree. I've heard many hitters say that the length of spring training is too long and they only really need about a week to get their timing back and they've been away from "baseball activity" for about 5 months with the off season. Not trying to downplay the importance of it. But two weeks? No sir. Um, spring training is six weeks of games preceded by at least 2 weeks of activity, without coming off of injury. Even Engel was was out just 2 months got more time than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Um, spring training is six weeks of games preceded by at least 2 weeks of activity, without coming off of injury. Even Engel was was out just 2 months got more time than that. Yeah......And like I said, I've heard hitters quoted that's it's too long. That they don't need that much time. And Engel kept having set backs, which can happen with hamstring injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, Soxsi75 said: Yeah......And like I said, I've heard hitters quoted that's it's too long. That they don't need that much time. And Engel kept having set backs, which can happen with hamstring injuries. There is a gigantic difference between a week and six weeks, especially when coming off of major injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Wait, i thought he died and was looking down making lineups for Tony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: There is a gigantic difference between a week and six weeks, especially when coming off of major injury. OK, maybe I expressed myself poorly. I'm not saying that now that he's beginning baseball activities again that he should now begin his rehab assignment and be back in a week. Not saying that at all, as that would be ridiculous. I imagine that now that he's beginning baseball activities, I imagine he'll be back in about 2 months. Around the middle of August. Which since he got hurt in mid March would be how long they said he would be out back then in the first place. I'm just saying that once he is ready to begin his rehab assignment, that that phase shouldn't last 2 weeks. You are not going to change my mind that a major league hitter needs to face minor league pitching for 2 weeks to get his timing back, when as I've said for the third time now, major league hitters have been quoted as saying they don't need that long to get their timing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I keep thinking about Eloy and have come to the conclusion he can only be a DH. He's just gonna get hurt out there. You know what this means? We must trade Yermin. Too many DH types on the team. Eloy can't move to 1B cause Jose has a few good years left. Maybe just maybe Sox could move Eloy to RF and have Jermaine Dye talk to him on how to play the position and not hurt yourself. (I realize Dye was no phenom defensively). Anyhow just the thought of Eloy back in LF concerns me. I love his bat, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, DirtySox said: Yoooo. Right on target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, bmags said: I'd hope so considering how many "set backs" they've had. Yep. From now on its how it reacts to the progressive activities. The attachment has healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) August sounds fantastic. Can't wait. Edited June 15, 2021 by almagest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) Miss his bat tremendously, mid August would be awesome. Edited June 15, 2021 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, Soxsi75 said: OK, maybe I expressed myself poorly. I'm not saying that now that he's beginning baseball activities again that he should now begin his rehab assignment and be back in a week. Not saying that at all, as that would be ridiculous. I imagine that now that he's beginning baseball activities, I imagine he'll be back in about 2 months. Around the middle of August. Which since he got hurt in mid March would be how long they said he would be out back then in the first place. I'm just saying that once he is ready to begin his rehab assignment, that that phase shouldn't last 2 weeks. You are not going to change my mind that a major league hitter needs to face minor league pitching for 2 weeks to get his timing back, when as I've said for the third time now, major league hitters have been quoted as saying they don't need that long to get their timing back. You said they said Spring Training was too long. That is six weeks. That is not the same as a two week rehab stint after not playing baseball games for 4 months after a major injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogowsox Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I wasn’t expecting Eloy till Sept 1 so if he’s here before that date, gravy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Rehab assignments can only last 20 days, so if all goes well, Eloy will be hitting bombs and saying hi to hi mom the first or second week of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Rehab assignments can only last 20 days, so if all goes well, Eloy will be hitting bombs and saying hi to hi mom the first or second week of August. I want him before this, but if his return lines up with the Field of Dreams game it'd be foolish to not have him walk out of the cornfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 16 hours ago, WilliamTell said: If he is back by then, he better be playing DH for that game (and hopefully most from there on out.) This will definitely be the plan if Mercedes continues on his current path IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I'm penciling in August 1 until I'm told differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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