ron883 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Beautiful friend, the end... Jose with the lowest OPS of his career. Chw42 posted a very interesting stat yesterday. Jose vs. fastballs over 95 MPH this year: .158 BA and .237 SLG. Jose vs. fastballs over 95 MPH last year: .371 BA and .857 SLG. Jose vs. fastballs over 95 MPH in 2019: .348 BA and .623 SLG. Jose's bat just seems noticeably slower this year. He absolutely can't catch up to fastballs 95+ this year. The Sox really need his bat if they want to compete this year. It's very concerning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 hard to believe pitchers throw him anything but fastballs at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) if Abreu had been trending down vs the fastball over the last few seasons I would say you were onto something it's much more likely that he's playing with some sort of mild injury, likely an oblique or something vs he just can't hit fastballs anymore Edited June 21, 2021 by joesaiditstrue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: if Abreu had been trending down vs the fastball over the last few seasons I would say you were into something it's much more likely that he's playing with some sort of mild injury, likely an oblique or something vs he just can't hit fastballs anymore cant imagine these lineups with him on the IL, what a brutal fucking year health wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 ronn trying to get abreu going again/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 I think we need more knee jerk reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Predictable...except for attempting to ruin an iconic Doors song. Edited June 21, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Ron needs to be sent down. This wasn't even a good attempt. He's just going through the troll motions now. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Ron needs to be sent down. This wasn't even a good attempt. He's just going through the troll motions now. I regret giving him the fire power to fuel his Abreu hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 i dont see 'troll' in that stat, its worrisome because you dont just lose it after a year like that. Is he hurt? I doubt he would tell the staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, reiks12 said: i dont see 'troll' in that stat, its worrisome because you dont just lose it after a year like that. Is he hurt? I doubt he would tell the staff. ron has been saying abreu sucks for 7 years... its a tradition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, reiks12 said: i dont see 'troll' in that stat, its worrisome because you dont just lose it after a year like that. Is he hurt? I doubt he would tell the staff. Thank you. Plenty of people here let their unconscious bias get in the way of the facts I posted. How is that not worrisome to Sox fans?? The stat is just ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Abreu is hitting .251/.330/.404 vs RHP with a 105 wRC+. That's not going to get it done. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Abreu is hitting .251/.330/.404 vs RHP with a 105 wRC+. That's not going to get it done. Maybe from your bench guys, but not your starting 1B MVP 3 hole/cleanup hitter. Nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Jose had COVID in the offseason correct? Is it possible he's going through the same thing Moncada did last year? I know he said he was asymptomatic back in Feb. but maybe that could part of the reason for his mediocre offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoxFanForever said: Jose had COVID in the offseason correct? Is it possible he's going through the same thing Moncada did last year? I know he said he was asymptomatic back in Feb. but maybe that could part of the reason for his mediocre offense. Honestly? He looks like he is pressing. When the team is going bad, he expands his zone to try to get hits in key situations. I see him going after a lot of junk in the left handers batters box instead of forcing pitchers to come to him. He is trying to put this team on his back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Honestly? He looks like he is pressing. When the team is going bad, he expands his zone to try to get hits in key situations. I see him going after a lot of junk in the left handers batters box instead of forcing pitchers to come to him. He is trying to put this team on his back. I can see that. Also losing his protection in Eloy and having to face a variety of teams besides the Central are also probably playing a factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, SoxFanForever said: I can see that. Also losing his protection in Eloy and having to face a variety of teams besides the Central are also probably playing a factor. It is a statement of how much he trusts the hitters behind him for sure. When Eloy is back there, he takes his walks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 He isn’t catching up to the fastballs and is expanding the zone more so than ever swinging at breaking balls way outside. Hope he can turn it around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: It is a statement of how much he trusts the hitters behind him for sure. When Eloy is back there, he takes his walks. Except Abreu is posting his highest BB% yet in a season where Eloy hasn't been behind him all year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 19 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Ron needs to be sent down. This wasn't even a good attempt. He's just going through the troll motions now. Is he not out of options yet? Seems like it might be time for DFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, raBBit said: Except Abreu is posting his highest BB% yet in a season where Eloy hasn't been behind him all year. And two of those have come in the last two weeks. Expanding walks by month: April 12 May 9 June 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: And two of those have come in the last two weeks. Expanding walks by month: April 12 May 9 June 3 Not sure what your point is here. I was just pointing out that your statement that Abreu walks more when Eloy protects him isn't supported by the data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, raBBit said: Not sure what your point is here. I was just pointing out that your statement that Abreu walks more when Eloy protects him isn't supported by the data. As the protection behind him has faded, he has started pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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