maloney.adam Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ptatc said: They shouldn't waste their resources on acquiring a 2B. It needs to go to a bullpen piece. They need to acquire another 2nd baseman. They can’t go into the postseason with Mendick/Garcia. All these other contenders are interested or active in talks to improve their club so we need to add to compete with them. It doesn’t have to be an expensive piece but someone like Escobar will do. Edited July 27, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, ptatc said: They shouldn't waste their resources on acquiring a 2B. It needs to go to a bullpen piece. The bullpen is definitely the most important need but they can do fill both holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The Sox will trade for a 2B. I'd put it at: 75% - Escobar 25% - Baez Story isn't going to happen. He hasn't been good and he's not a 2B. Turner isn't going to happen. The Sox don't have the prospects to get him and aren't going to trade MLB pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: They need to acquire another 2nd baseman. They can’t go into the postseason with Mendick/Garcia. All these other contenders are active in talks so we need to add to compete. It doesn’t have to be an expensive piece but someone like Escobar will do. Sure they can. The have all-star caliber hitters in 7/9 positions. That lineup will be as good as any. Their bullpen is the weakness. That is where they need to use their limited resources. Edited July 27, 2021 by ptatc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, manbearpuig said: The bullpen is definitely the most important need but they can do fill both holes. Just depends on the cost. They shouldn't trade much for a rental they don't need next year at 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: Sure they can. The have all-star caliber hitters in 7/9 positions. That lineup will be as good as any. Their bullpen is the weakness. That is where they need to use their limited resources. Agree with this but I think they can fill both. The lineup is stacked even with platoons at 2B and RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, ptatc said: Just depends on the cost. They shouldn't trade much for a rental they don't need next year at 2B. By definition, next year is irrelevant when discussing a 2B rental. Trading major assets for a 2B controlled beyond 2021 would be idiotic. But that isn't what we're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: Just depends on the cost. They shouldn't trade much for a rental they don't need next year at 2B. Escobar or Baez are free agents next year. Both I don’t think will cost a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I'm a little concerned about bullpen costs. If you've been looking around baseball, the white sox are not alone in needing help in bullpen. Thank God we signed Hendriks. The astros have been melting down there as well. Yankees too. The Red sox may very well be where they are at because they've been extremely good at bullpen production with barnes and ottavino. When you look at a lot of the bad teams, so few even have decent bullpen pieces. Our best bullpen help is likely just hoping that bummer+heuer get on track. Otherwise I just hope a Hudson can find his way here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, bmags said: I'm a little concerned about bullpen costs. If you've been looking around baseball, the white sox are not alone in needing help in bullpen. Thank God we signed Hendriks. The astros have been melting down there as well. Yankees too. The Red sox may very well be where they are at because they've been extremely good at bullpen production with barnes and ottavino. When you look at a lot of the bad teams, so few even have decent bullpen pieces. Our best bullpen help is likely just hoping that bummer+heuer get on track. Otherwise I just hope a Hudson can find his way here. I'm not loving the cost to acquire BP help either. Wait it out until the deadline when clubs have more incentive to move their rental assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Why not grab Baez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Is there a site that shows how many options a player has left? Someone on my Facebook feed is claiming that Micker has 3 left which doesn’t sound right lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: Is there a site that shows how many options a player has left? Someone on my Facebook feed is claiming that Micker has 3 left which doesn’t sound right lol Google “White Sox roster resource” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Hosmer salary dump incoming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: Is there a site that shows how many options a player has left? Someone on my Facebook feed is claiming that Micker has 3 left which doesn’t sound right lol https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/white-sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: Is there a site that shows how many options a player has left? Someone on my Facebook feed is claiming that Micker has 3 left which doesn’t sound right lol I found this article: https://southsideshowdown.com/2021/07/21/chicago-white-sox-yermin-mercedes-might-considering-retirement/ which included this line: Quote They added Adolfo to the 40-man roster in the 2017 year to avoid losing him in the Rule 5 draft. That would make him out of options after this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, maxjusttyped said: Hosmer salary dump incoming? That’s what it’s going to take to move him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: That’s what it’s going to take to move him Will caulfield be ok 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Kyyle23 said: Will caulfield be ok Only if Hosmer is traded to the Royals, because then he can say it’s because the Royals wanted to bring him home and it wasn’t about getting a top prospect 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Google “White Sox roster resource” Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: The Sox will trade for a 2B. I'd put it at: 75% - Escobar 25% - Baez Story isn't going to happen. He hasn't been good and he's not a 2B. Turner isn't going to happen. The Sox don't have the prospects to get him and aren't going to trade MLB pieces. Schoop should be higher than Baez. Cubs aren’t likely to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Hosmer salary dump incoming? We found out how to balance the cosmic scales. It ain't pretty, but we found out how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Hosmer salary dump incoming? So I looked up Hosmer to see if maybe the Sox could justify taking Hosmer if the prospect who came with him was enough to help get Escobar and/or a reliever. The answer is no. He's actually been worse vs RHP than vs LHP this year, and his road OPS is only 20 points higher than home OPS. I just couldn't find a way to get him enough playing time to take him even if the Padres paid half his remaining salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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