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GT 7/9: SOX @ BAL, 6:05


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8 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

1. This is the 149th game for the White Sox since Dallas was signed, so just under, not "anywhere near". He has 150 innings because he's been hurt, doesn't go long because he gives up a shit load of base runners. Blames Rickey Renteria, the outfield positioning, among other things for his failures.

2. They are not similar pitchers. Mark Buehrle at just under 4 fWAR per year is truly elite. Keuchel had 1.8 fWAR against the shitty central divisions last year, 0.6 so far this year past the half way point (may drop further after today).

3. Not to mention Hahn signed Turd Ferguson for $76M, or a few million less than what Buehrle was paid over his 11 elite seasons.

Baseball Reference:

Mark Buehrle: 60 bWAR, comparable pitchers (Two Hall of Famers - Jessie Haines and Catfish Hunter), Orel Hershiser, Bob Welch, Kevin Brown among the others)

Dallas Keuchel: 22 bWAR, comparable pitchers (Teddy Higuera, Clay Buchholz, Chad Billingsley, Pete Vuckovich, Carlos Carrasco).

Why’d you leave the best comparable pitchers off Keuchel’s list though? Haddix, Tudor and Scott? His 22 war is all 2014-2021. 3.34 ERA and 3.46 fip. Sorry but that is similar to Buehrle numbers

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1 minute ago, Vulture said:

Why’d you leave the best comparable pitchers off Keuchel’s list though? Haddix, Tudor and Scott? His 22 war is 2014-2021. 3.34 ERA and 3.46 fip. Sorry but that is similar to Buehrle numbers

I compared career comparable pitchers, based on the argument "they are the same pitchers". One has a bWAR three times as high, they are nowhere close to being the same pitcher.

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