The Kids Can Play Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Yes, you are name calling because you can't stay on point, but I am the one who is sensitive. I think it's the other way around you didn't stay on point. You seem to have this mission or grudge to always attack me on every single comment I make. I noticed when someone doesn't agree with you, the intense attacks come out. I guess you don't follow the old adage, "I guess we'll have to agree to disagree". I can understand that aspect of you, when you seem to be on this forum 24/7 all day long. Btw FYI, using contrarian is not name calling. It's not some ugly swear word as you seem to think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Which is an incredibly important part of the game of baseball...... Literally the only thing that Yoan is missing right now is homers, and we know of a shoulder and hand injury which are power sapping injuries. He is on pace for about a 5 WAR season. He's putting up a very big OPS+ even without those homers, by still hitting in the clutch (1.071 OPS with RISP) and drawing a ton of walks besides his other hitting numbers. He's also putting up another excellent defensive season, following up another one last year, despite his COVID problems. His metrics are all WAY up over last year, including hard hit and line drive percentages. I keep saying it, but once the hand heals up, he is primed for a huge second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I think it's the other way around you didn't stay on point. You seem to have this mission or grudge to always attack me on every single comment I make. I noticed when someone doesn't agree with you, the intense attacks come out. I guess you don't follow the old adage, "I guess we'll have to agree to disagree". I can understand that aspect of you, when you seem to be on this forum 24/7 all day long. Btw FYI, using contrarian is not name calling. It's not some ugly swear word as you seem to think. Yet you are calling Ron an idiot 4 posts back here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ why don't you just agree to disagree with him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: Yet you are calling Ron an idiot 4 posts back here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ why don't you just agree to disagree with him Good point! From now on everybody gets an "agree to disagree" from me. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I think it's the other way around you didn't stay on point. You seem to have this mission or grudge to always attack me on every single comment I make. I noticed when someone doesn't agree with you, the intense attacks come out. I guess you don't follow the old adage, "I guess we'll have to agree to disagree". I can understand that aspect of you, when you seem to be on this forum 24/7 all day long. Btw FYI, using contrarian is not name calling. It's not some ugly swear word as you seem to think. I responded to what you said, but I didn't stay on point. The only "attacks" have been you using phrases like "delusional" and "idiot" just because they don't agree with you. Look here at Soxtalk people have different opinions, and if you can't respect that people will disagree with you, you won't make it here long. I don't know why responded to the points YOU made upsets you so much, but again, you need to be tougher than falling into name calling to make it. My post was full of stats and the like to prove my point. Yours was all about how how your point wasn't really your point, and then some name calling. If that is too much for you, you might need to find a new home soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I think it's the other way around you didn't stay on point. You seem to have this mission or grudge to always attack me on every single comment I make. I noticed when someone doesn't agree with you, the intense attacks come out. I guess you don't follow the old adage, "I guess we'll have to agree to disagree". I can understand that aspect of you, when you seem to be on this forum 24/7 all day long. Btw FYI, using contrarian is not name calling. It's not some ugly swear word as you seem to think. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Yet you are calling Ron an idiot 4 posts back here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ why don't you just agree to disagree with him Btw, if you check all posts involving Ron, you will find many posters here call Ron names. If the shoes fits; wear it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, ron883 said: Was that an attempt at humor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I responded to what you said, but I didn't stay on point. The only "attacks" have been you using phrases like "delusional" and "idiot" just because they don't agree with you. Look here at Soxtalk people have different opinions, and if you can't respect that people will disagree with you, you won't make it here long. I don't know why responded to the points YOU made upsets you so much, but again, you need to be tougher than falling into name calling to make it. My post was full of stats and the like to prove my point. Yours was all about how how your point wasn't really your point, and then some name calling. If that is too much for you, you might need to find a new home soon. You are right as usual! How dare anyone especially me disagree with you. My bad, it wont happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said: You are right as usual! How dare anyone especially me disagree with you. My bad, it wont happen again. You can debate all you like, but if you get that upset when someone responds to what you are talking about, that is an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunt Ritual Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, hogan873 said: During Moncada's rough 2018, he struck out 33.3% of the time and walked 10.3% of the time. In 2019, which was an amazing year for him, he struck out 27.5% of the time but only walked 7.2% of the time. So far in 2021, he's striking out only 25.1% of the time and walking a robust 16.5% of the time. He's clearly getting better at the plate, despite his power numbers being down. I would hazard to guess that the power dip is temporary and he'll start hitting for power again soon. He's 26 years old and is one of the best 3B in the game. He contributes in the field with a really good glove and contributes at the plate by getting on base A LOT. Do you know how many teams would kill for a player like Yoan? There was a period where WE would kill for a player like this. Even if he settles with 25 HR power, you basically have Anthony Rendon. I feel like his bad 2018 still sticks with people. Even in 2019, people were expecting the wheels to fall off at any moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You can debate all you like, but if you get that upset when someone responds to what you are talking about, that is an issue. To add to the dogpile I put that guy on ignore 4 pages ago in this thread. That ballgame is ovah! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Bunt Ritual said: There was a period where WE would kill for a player like this. Even if he settles with 25 HR power, you basically have Anthony Rendon. I feel like his bad 2018 still sticks with people. Even in 2019, people were expecting the wheels to fall off at any moment. The Conor Gillaspie era didn't do it for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, Bunt Ritual said: There was a period where WE would kill for a player like this. Even if he settles with 25 HR power, you basically have Anthony Rendon. I feel like his bad 2018 still sticks with people. Even in 2019, people were expecting the wheels to fall off at any moment. With many of our players, but for some reason especially Yoan, it's a case of what we have vs. what we want. And if someone showed Moncada's stats without revealing it's him, most people would LOVE to have that guy on the team. The Sox have one of the best 3B in the game that gets on base 40% of the time, and fans would love to have...well, one of the best 3B on the game who gets on base 40% of the time. But not Yoan Moncada. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Bunt Ritual said: There was a period where WE would kill for a player like this. Even if he settles with 25 HR power, you basically have Anthony Rendon. I feel like his bad 2018 still sticks with people. Even in 2019, people were expecting the wheels to fall off at any moment. If he becomes the player that he is, so far this year, with "25 HR power," I would be very happy. If injuries are really the reason that he isn't hitting for power this season, then we'll just have to wait until he's healthy. I sure hope so, because he is going to be very expensive, during the last 3 years of that contract. As I stated earlier, $24 & $25 million is lot to pay a guy producing what he is producing this year. Mr. Reinsdorf's unwillingness to spend big, means that the Sox can't afford to be paying that much money to anyone, who isn't a super star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lillian said: If he becomes the player that he is, so far this year, with "25 HR power," I would be very happy. If injuries are really the reason that he isn't hitting for power this season, then we'll just have to wait until he's healthy. I sure hope so, because he is going to be very expensive, during the last 3 years of that contract. As I stated earlier, $24 & $25 million is lot to pay a guy producing what he is producing this year. Mr. Reinsdorf's unwillingness to spend big, means that the Sox can't afford to be paying that much money to anyone, who isn't a super star. $25 million isn't really superstar money anymore, that is more in that $35 million range. It will probably be even less costly with some wage inflation in MLB by 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunt Ritual Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lillian said: If he becomes the player that he is, so far this year, with "25 HR power," I would be very happy. If injuries are really the reason that he isn't hitting for power this season, then we'll just have to wait until he's healthy. I sure hope so, because he is going to be very expensive, during the last 3 years of that contract. As I stated earlier, $24 & $25 million is lot to pay a guy producing what he is producing this year. Mr. Reinsdorf's unwillingness to spend big, means that the Sox can't afford to be paying that much money to anyone, who isn't a super star. 25 mil for a 5 WAR player is dirt cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmb35 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said: No comparison. Kopech at this stage is clearly the better player. Kopech also has a much brighter upside future. Are you sure you watched any Sox games this year? Your baseball analysis leaves A LOT to be desired sir. Unless you're being facetious, in which case, uh carry on I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmb35 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 hours ago, mqr said: Yeah, that's stupid. And for record Jose Ramirez has two seaons better than 5 WAR and that's it. Also, steroid allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Finally got a chance to sign on today (first day back in an office). Dear lord wow. I’ve had enough Soxtalk for the day. Edited July 14, 2021 by manbearpuig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Bunt Ritual said: long time lurker, first time poster. Some of these takes are insane. good lord. Welcome to Soxtalk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Somebody bunt!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said: Dude, you need to address the original post. Quit rambling about how good Moncada is or isn't. The fact is the bigger piece of the Chris Sale trade was Moncada over Kopech. Based on that, right now who is the better player with a brighter Sox future? Is it Moncada or Kopech? If you say Moncada, then you truly are the #1 SoxTalk delusional contrarian on this forum. What is your argument that Kopech is better than Moncada? I haven't seen you make one at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Beginning to miss 2017-19… Also, some newcomers popping up around here are reminiscent of freaking Braves fans in the 90’s and 00’s complaining about not winning enough World Series titles…but not going to the playoff games even because they expected to lose eventually. How about let’s FIRST make the postseason two consecutive years before nitpicking every single player to death? Maybe at least change the thread title to HOT CAKEZ…because tasty food is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Moncada fcking sucks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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