Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, fathom said: Judging by how Stoney reacts whenever Benetti mentions Adam Frazier, I think he will be their main acquisition. I really hope that isn’t the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, fathom said: Judging by how Stoney reacts whenever Benetti mentions Adam Frazier, I think he will be their main acquisition. Stone also thought AJ Hinch would be the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, chw42 said: Stone also thought AJ Hinch would be the manager. Yup, Stone's accuracy took a massive hit with that one. Hoping he's wrong about Sox having no chance at Bryant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Yup, Stone's accuracy took a massive hit with that one. Hoping he's wrong about Sox having no chance at Bryant Pretty much everyone except Bob Nightingale and Jerry Reinsdorf were wrong about the Sox manager. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: I really hope that isn’t the case. I don't know man, imagine if we replaced leury garcia's usage with Adam Frazier for the next 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, bmags said: I don't know man, imagine if we replaced leury garcia's usage with Adam Frazier for the next 2 years. The Dodgers make shit like this work. I want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Quin said: The Dodgers make shit like this work. I want it. Frazier would be my first choice as well. Tired of hearing about his lack of power. The Sox have the best record in the AL while having only the 6th best SLG in the AL, and that's with three very good sluggers coming back from injury. Frazier's OBP from the left side is a fantastic complement to this team. For the rest of this year, he can be the starting 2B, and then next year he can start only vs RHP and rotate between 2B, LF and RF while doing so, which allows Madrigal, Eloy, Vaughn and Engel to get regular days off vs RHP without turning any of them into strict platoon guys. If people don't want Frazier because the price would be too high, I get that, but if people don't want Frazier because they don't think he'd be a good fit, that's just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Frazier would be my first choice as well. Tired of hearing about his lack of power. The Sox have the best record in the AL while having only the 6th best SLG in the AL, and that's with three very good sluggers coming back from injury. Frazier's OBP from the left side is a fantastic complement to this team. For the rest of this year, he can be the starting 2B, and then next year he can start only vs RHP and rotate between 2B, LF and RF while doing so, which allows Madrigal, Eloy, Vaughn and Engel to get regular days off vs RHP without turning any of them into strict platoon guys. If people don't want Frazier because the price would be too high, I get that, but if people don't want Frazier because they don't think he'd be a good fit, that's just silly. Frazier likely has a sky high asking price because the Pirates do not have to trade him. I do not love the idea of trading for a player based on a career year of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I apologize for grifting but if anyone has espn+ and could send the sox blurb from passan would be appreesh pm me thnx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, bmags said: I apologize for grifting but if anyone has espn+ and could send the sox blurb from passan would be appreesh pm me thnx. Sent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Cool thanks. I'm pretty refreshed. When Grandal went down I probably would have panicked. But Sox continuing to win while they bridged the injuries to Eloy and Robert puts them in a much better position. If sox are greenlit to take on salary, we should be able to add relief pitching with giving up very little. And how sweet that is coming out of an all star game which saw numerous former unheralded sox call-ups now playing as all-stars elsewhere. If our depth allows us to finally no longer need to rob peter to pay paul, we allow ourselves to be available to pounce on a true star upgrade when one fits. I really wanted Bryant 4 weeks ago. We don't need Bryant now. I think the dumbest thing I would do is if ATL raises the flag kick the tires on Morton and see if taking on his remaining salary takes care of a lot of the prospect burden while allowing us to move to a 6-man rotation to ensure we have our best staff for the playoffs. Anyway I have no idea, but I trust sox to get something. I have been looknig for relievers, and we have bummer so this doesn't make sense, but holy crap look at this guys insane stats: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/richard-bleier/7803/stats?position=P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Hmm, in a jokey not at all real way Grant Bisbee mentioned Cards trading Gallegos and I keep forgetting the cards are having a bad year, and that seems like a pretty good target, no? fangraphs.com/players/giovanny-gallegos/14986/stats?position=P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I can't believe we are sitting here and our biggest need is RP's. It's so sad from where we started. Imagine this teams record with it's reliver performing up to expectations. Does it add 5 wins? more? Does anyone else feel like adding relievers, while low risk, is a bit boring and unpredictable? I mean these guys have so few innings that the stats are not really trustworthy. I know we will probably add 1 or 2 RP arms and that's good, but it really doesn't matter to me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: I can't believe we are sitting here and our biggest need is RP's. It's so sad from where we started. Imagine this teams record with it's reliver performing up to expectations. Does it add 5 wins? more? Does anyone else feel like adding relievers, while low risk, is a bit boring and unpredictable? I mean these guys have so few innings that the stats are not really trustworthy. I know we will probably add 1 or 2 RP arms and that's good, but it really doesn't matter to me at all. I think they will also add a 2nd baseman. Leury/Mendick can’t be their best option going into the playoffs. Edited July 20, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 If we're speculating on weird guy relievers we can acquire then count me in. Get me Paul Sewald and David Bednar! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, TomPickle said: If we're speculating on weird guy relievers we can acquire then count me in. Get me Paul Sewald and David Bednar! Sewald's results are absurd but I kinda don't believe in how long it could last. Just a 2-pitch mix relying on horizontal movement seems like pitchers eventually figure out what's coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, iWiN4PreP said: I can't believe we are sitting here and our biggest need is RP's. It's so sad from where we started. Imagine this teams record with it's reliver performing up to expectations. Does it add 5 wins? more? Does anyone else feel like adding relievers, while low risk, is a bit boring and unpredictable? I mean these guys have so few innings that the stats are not really trustworthy. I know we will probably add 1 or 2 RP arms and that's good, but it really doesn't matter to me at all. If the bullpen performed as expected, this team probably mows down everyone. But on the flip side, we didn't exactly expect a monstrous rotation led by Carlos Rodon, statistical best pitcher in the American League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Does anyone know if there has been an update on Evan Marshall? Are the Sox gonna treat him like a deadline pickup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: Does anyone know if there has been an update on Evan Marshall? Are the Sox gonna treat him like a deadline pickup? https://twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1416486055516282886?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 hours ago, bmags said: I don't know man, imagine if we replaced leury garcia's usage with Adam Frazier for the next 2 years. Adam Frazier a nice player and a sizable upgrade over Leury, but I don’t want to give up Crochet for him and I’m not sure they’d except anything less. Maybe you could kill them with quantity and offer up Rodriguez, Ramos, & Thompson but that’s a stiff price to pay for three kids with legit top 100 prospect upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Adam Frazier a nice player and a sizable upgrade over Leury, but I don’t want to give up Crochet for him and I’m not sure they’d except anything less. Maybe you could kill them with quantity and offer up Rodriguez, Ramos, & Thompson but that’s a stiff price to pay for three kids with legit top 100 prospect upside. People hyperventilating over his cost. He's a 2b, he's nice and versatile, but when people are like "I'll just get Jonathan Schoop instead" you aren't an incredible market maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, bmags said: People hyperventilating over his cost. He's a 2b, he's nice and versatile, but when people are like "I'll just get Jonathan Schoop instead" you aren't an incredible market maker. He can also play RF though and that versatility will be reflected in his cost. I’ll happily take him if he comes at a reasonable price, but I’m skeptical that Cherrington doesn’t get a nice return for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Frazier is an average player in a career year fueled by numbers that look anomalous. I wouldn't even be sure he will sustain the production in the final two months of THIS season, let alone being viable next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Adam Frazier a nice player and a sizable upgrade over Leury, but I don’t want to give up Crochet for him and I’m not sure they’d except anything less. Maybe you could kill them with quantity and offer up Rodriguez, Ramos, & Thompson but that’s a stiff price to pay for three kids with legit top 100 prospect upside. Really do not like the idea of emptying out our lower minors and would much prefer an Escobar rental 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Will Tim Beckham ever get a shot at 2B on the MLB club? Maybe he will infuse a spark a la Goodwin and be the answer for rest of season at 2B. Leury has been fine but best served as a super utility guy leading up to and through the playoffs. This way, we can focus our assets to acquire a high leverage reliever...or two. Or swing for the fences with Gallo in RF...a lineup with Eloy/Vaughn, Robert and Gallo and then late inning OF w Engel/Hamilton, Robert and Gallo is stacked. If it costs Sheets or Burger ++, I'd do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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