Greg Hibbard Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Has the delicacy been renamed the “Nothingburger” yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:33 PM, Harry Chappas said: Don't most minor league players get a bonus for signing? Minor league baseball sucks but it is a choice they make to have a shot at greatness. Is it any different than a struggling artist waiting tables? Expand Another difference, in addition to what some have pointed out, is that a struggling artist that waits tables is making a living through another endeavor. Minor league baseball players are still playing baseball, and no matter how much MLB owners try to cry poor by funneling profits into other books, they can absolutely afford to at least pay the players a living wage. The Twitter account @MiLBAdvocates has been really active this season and has done a good job of highlighting some of MiLB's issues, to the point where certain organizations have even changed practices in-season as a result of the backlash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:26 PM, maloney.adam said: Doesn’t Kim Ng from the Marlins like Yermin? I thought someone posted that the other day. Expand They attempted to trade for him prior to the season, whether they still like him is anyone's guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 FWIW, if Yermin was having a really bad mental health time yesterday and hit some sort of breaking point, and the White Sox were able to get in touch with him today and either give an assist or start a process of working through things for him, then the organization should be complimented on getting that done. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:26 PM, maloney.adam said: Doesn’t Kim Ng from the Marlins like Yermin? I thought someone posted that the other day. Expand I hope another team trades for Yermin and he gets a chance to reset his career. Hopefully he'll go to a team with a manager that appreciates his talents and has his back. Maybe a manager who won't talk about "spanking" him like he's some kind of a fucking child... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:07 PM, macsandz said: All those praising Kopech for his candor and honesty on mental health issues need to view Yermin through the same lens. This has been brewing for a long time and is more than just "drama" or "immaturity". Yermin a good dude. Expand This my be true. Do you know personally? If not you can't say that for sure. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:40 PM, Balta1701 said: FWIW, if Yermin was having a really bad mental health time yesterday and hit some sort of breaking point, and the White Sox were able to get in touch with him today and either give an assist or start a process of working through things for him, then the organization should be complimented on getting that done. Expand Doesn't work well for kids who threaten to run away from home either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 being that yermin will unlikely ever be an important part of this team again - this is all....whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:47 PM, chetkincaid said: I hope another team trades for Yermin and he gets a chance to reset his career. Hopefully he'll go to a team with a manager that appreciates his talents and has his back. Maybe a manager who won't talk about "spanking" him like he's some kind of a fucking child... Expand TLR gave Yermin a ton of rope this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:59 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: He can catch. He hasn't strictly DH'd in the minors. Terrible teams often take chances on helping someones defense. Semien got better, Narvaez got better. Good luck Yermin a lot of people are wishing that you pursue your dream and stay focused . Expand He had three passed balls in one game. He's not a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 People getting on Tony for the HR incident are brutal. Stop embarrassing yourselves. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 4:57 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: No, these guys are actually humans trying to make a living and in any other profession he could seek other opportunities. The anti-trust exemptions in baseball granting them bigger power is a complete joke. Baseball has exploited minor leaguers forever and its complete trash. Expand I completely agree with the general point you are making here about the minors and releasing blocked players, but I'll add the caveat that common-sense compromises are still the best way forward. By that I mean that, in this case, Yermin realized he was blocked sometime in the few weeks leading up to the trade deadline. Consequently, I think it is completely fair for the team to say "we will grant you a release if we can't trade you by the deadline to a team with a clearer path." No clue if any of that happened here, but I don't think that approach would be unfair at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:40 PM, Balta1701 said: FWIW, if Yermin was having a really bad mental health time yesterday and hit some sort of breaking point, and the White Sox were able to get in touch with him today and either give an assist or start a process of working through things for him, then the organization should be complimented on getting that done. Expand And if they are the type of org that would do this, then we'll never hear about it out of respect for the player's privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) On 7/22/2021 at 10:22 PM, pcq said: People getting on Tony for the HR incident are brutal. Stop embarrassing yourselves. Expand I swear to God that I was just getting ready to type this as I read your post, lol. I was about to write: This may be controversial but if Yermin is apologizing Tony should as well. Tony, whom I LOVE as a manager, made a bad mistake in jumping on the rookie for that stupid unwritten rule violation. Anybody that saw Yermin hit the first 5-6 weeks had to think this guy might actually be a stellar major league hitter. Tony, as old as he is, made an error in ripping the rookie. NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT NOW except Tony should apologize, at least to Yermin. At the very least, u don't mess with success and Tony broke up the karma, the mojo with his dumb public position on the HR. if Sox win pennant I say Yermin deserves a ring, too. He was that hot early on. Edited July 22, 2021 by greg775 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLsoxfan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Interesting TLR says he is going to reach out and then Yermin reports... maybe he isn't as evil as some people make him out to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 10:22 PM, pcq said: People getting on Tony for the HR incident are brutal. Stop embarrassing yourselves. Expand people being mad about the way he handled it is fine... but acting like it scarred yermin into desolation is farcical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 5:32 PM, ChiSox59 said: I get it. Its unfortunate for Yermin. But he's the guy who's production fell of a cliff, and he's the guy that cannot play a position well enough to be anything other than a beer league softball player defensively. These are things he can improve on, and if so, he has a role on an mlb club. Maybe that isn't with the Sox, but if he kept raking in AAA instead of throwing a public temper tantrum and quitting, he would have gotten an opportunity somewhere at some point even if he never improved defensively. I like Yermin. I hope he cools off, has a chance of heart and the Sox grant him another opportunity down in AAA. But the Sox aren't the bad guys here man. I know you have strong feelings about labor laws in mlb, and that is fine. I don't disagree with some of what you're saying - but this is all stuff they agreed to in their contracts, and the upside for them in quite literally financial freedom for life and their children's lives. Expecting the Sox to just willy nilly grant releases to disgruntled player is asinine. Expand Nitpicking a bit, but I just want to push back on this specific argument, because it is common and really unfair. These guys don't have any negotiating power. They aren't allowed to say "I don't want to be controlled for 6 years" and try to negotiate that away. Their choice is to either sign the contract, or not play at all. And while technically the MLBPA represents them in labor discussions, it has been clear for decades that the MLBPA has no interest in fighting for any sort of major rights or protections for minor league players. So they don't really even have an avenue to collectively bargain a better deal for themselves. This isn't the case of a guy negotiating a contract, signing it, and then regretting it because it turned out not to be as advantageous as they hoped. This is someone who has been strong-armed into a terrible contract with no other options other than to quit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 10:26 PM, FLsoxfan said: Interesting TLR says he is going to reach out and then Yermin reports... maybe he isn't as evil as some people make him out to be Expand I’m not a LaRussa fan and don’t like the way he handled that whole situation, but I do agree with those that believe that it is a stretch to connect that incident to him wanting to walk away. He apparently called him last night (I would assume others did too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) I saw this same shit with Colby Rasmus with few exceptions almost every one of these situations where fans have backed the player have been proven wrong. Congratulations on Yermin supporters for joining the club. What a headcase! Glad his drama in the minors where it belongs Edited July 22, 2021 by wrathofhahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 7:58 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I'm shocked he's not a regular poster around here. Expand On 7/22/2021 at 8:15 PM, Big Hurtin said: Can we be sure that he isn't? ? Expand Has anyone ever seen Yermin and Ron in the room at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 TLR does not approve when retirements are not sincere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 10:31 PM, gusguyman said: Nitpicking a bit, but I just want to push back on this specific argument, because it is common and really unfair. These guys don't have any negotiating power. They aren't allowed to say "I don't want to be controlled for 6 years" and try to negotiate that away. Their choice is to either sign the contract, or not play at all. And while technically the MLBPA represents them in labor discussions, it has been clear for decades that the MLBPA has no interest in fighting for any sort of major rights or protections for minor league players. So they don't really even have an avenue to collectively bargain a better deal for themselves. This isn't the case of a guy negotiating a contract, signing it, and then regretting it because it turned out not to be as advantageous as they hoped. This is someone who has been strong-armed into a terrible contract with no other options other than to quit. Expand BBBbut the guys at McDonalds have it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:19 PM, fathom said: I think he gets traded in next week Expand To a MLB or MiLB contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 And I'm very happy he's currently not performing well enough to make this team. Championship teams are tougher to stay on. And if he can't handle his manager being upset with him how's he going to handle a WS with 60,000 fans booing him? Retire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Yermin Mercedes leaving the stadium last night: 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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