soxfan49 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 per Passan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 They couldn't have done this 3 days ago? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) Posted in the Cruz thread yesterday that I thought he would go there. I liked the fit for the: need of big bat, didn’t have to negotiate salary in the off-season and try to sign one. Edited July 22, 2021 by manbearpuig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) Edited July 22, 2021 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This sucks. Sox will ultimately need to face him the the playoffs. Would have rather seen him stay on the damn Twins for the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This goes back To my feelings on Cruz in the trade thread earlier… sometimes, even if not a need, it’s good to play a little defense. That makes the rays lineup a lot more dangerous come playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, CWSpalehoseCWS said: This sucks. Sox will ultimately need to face him the the playoffs. Would have rather seen him stay on the damn Twins for the rest of the year. I mean he was gonna get traded to a playoff team in the AL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, chw42 said: I mean he was gonna get traded to a playoff team in the AL. I know, still doesn't mean I have to like it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I’m guessing the return will be quite low, to the point it woulda been like a … sheets? Or rutherford + Lopez type return. I think we’ll say, that’s all? Just a hunch. (and I get sheets is looking good, but he’s likely a 3-5 year player, nice bench type piece) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Solid return for a rental DH, even one that rakes like Cruz does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, chw42 said: I mean he was gonna get traded to a playoff team in the AL. I was hoping it would be Oakland or the pretending Mariners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This literally just puts them in a better position to compete with us. Anyway, trying to keep a guy away from a team where he is a better fit is not a good strategy unless you have a ton of resources to trade, which we don’t. Our job is to fill 2b and get bullpen help. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I was hoping it would be Oakland or the pretending Mariners. The last thing I want is to face Nelson Cruz at the Oakland coliseum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Rays are currently 1 game back of Boston, who are tied with us. Boston gets Sale back at some point but you have to imagine this gets the trade market moving. Neither Chicago nor especially Boston want Tampa passing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Solid return for a rental DH, even one that rakes like Cruz does. Strotman is probably top 10 in our system. Ryan is almost top 100. Edited July 22, 2021 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This is why the Sox need to be aggressive at the deadline and improve the team early enough to finish with the best record in the AL, to force the Astros and Rays to face each other in the ALDS, not just wait until the deadline because of the 8 1/2 game lead over Cleveland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Solid return for a rental DH, even one that rakes like Cruz does. Tampa's 10th and 17th best prospect in their system. Solid deal for Twins too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Tampa's 10th and 17th best prospect in their system. Solid deal for Twins too. Yeah that's a really good for half a season of a DH. We definitely can't match that package for someone like Cruz. We got bigger holes elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, chw42 said: Strotman is probably top 10 in our system. Ryan is almost top 100. I think you can argue either of them would be the best pitching prospect in the Sox system. The number of pitchers putting up video game strikeout numbers in the Rays system is crazy. Guys that never get any prospect coverage are putting up ~35 k%+. Their pitching development is pretty remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: This literally just puts them in a better position to compete with us. Anyway, trying to keep a guy away from a team where he is a better fit is not a good strategy unless you have a ton of resources to trade, which we don’t. Our job is to fill 2b and get bullpen help. Yeah, I wouldn't want to beat this price for Cruz when we have actual holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: I think you can argue either of them would be the best pitching prospect in the Sox system. The number of pitchers putting up video game strikeout numbers in the Rays system is crazy. Guys that never get any prospect coverage are putting up ~35 k%+. Their pitching development is pretty remarkable. Yup. If it came out that we had to trade Kelley and Stiever for Cruz, this board probably would have exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This thread should be moved to our main board. Cruz is an ALC icon on our most heated rival of our early rebirth. I hate the Twins and that Cruz torched us, but he and Maggie deserve a proper Farwell from the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hopefully his bat speed will slow down in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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