Quin Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Lmao it's fucking awful I would be so embarrassed. This reeks of a PR internal discussion of "what is the opposite of offensive? pick that." I'm considering that our team is named after an article of clothing and we only like it now because it's over a century old. Lots of sports names suck and only become good over time. Examples of teams that would be eviscerated if named today: - Either Sox - Dodgers - Knicks - Rays ("sunshine" version) - Reds - Browns, but Orange - Lakers - Jazz of Utah Variety (to be fair, they are mocked for this) - Cubs - Phillies These are the ones off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, mqr said: I don’t think it was cheap or lazy I just think they tried way to hard to not rock the boat by going with a similar sounding name and not changing the look Sounds midwest to me aka fly over country nothing to see here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 The only way this works is if their mascot is Groot and their motto is "I AM GROOT" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolves01 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Should have went with this 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 people hate every team name. I like that it's based off of a local thing that's special to cleveland. The pelicans was a great name and people ahted it (who is scared of a pelican lawler) but the worst names are when teams decided their mascots needed to represent something fierce. 90s graphic design imo was really fun and great but the mascot legacy is terrible. What! You can't name your team the cubs after baby bears, you need to name them after the uh...grizzly bears because they maul and are strong just like our team! And I'll just say I actually like it and while you guys will go apeshit over the main logo, when people choose this stuff they also look at a lot of extensibility across mediums, and I kinda really like some of the smaller logos which blend some fun styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Quin said: I'm considering that our team is named after an article of clothing and we only like it now because it's over a century old. Lots of sports names suck and only become good over time. Examples of teams that would be eviscerated if named today: - Either Sox - Dodgers - Knicks - Rays ("sunshine" version) - Reds - Browns, but Orange - Lakers - Jazz of Utah Variety (to be fair, they are mocked for this) - Cubs - Phillies These are the ones off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more. Dodgers is the ultimate dodge ball name, that one is cool. So is reds, rays (I live in Arizona and understand how strong the sun really gets closer to the equator), Cubs, and Phillies cuz of the city name Edited July 23, 2021 by JPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, bmags said: people hate every team name. I like that it's based off of a local thing that's special to cleveland. The pelicans was a great name and people ahted it (who is scared of a pelican lawler) but the worst names are when teams decided their mascots needed to represent something fierce. 90s graphic design imo was really fun and great but the mascot legacy is terrible. What! You can't name your team the cubs after baby bears, you need to name them after the uh...grizzly bears because they maul and are strong just like our team! And I'll just say I actually like it and while you guys will go apeshit over the main logo, when people choose this stuff they also look at a lot of extensibility across mediums, and I kinda really like some of the smaller logos which blend some fun styles. Bmags used to live in Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, JPR said: Bmags used to live in Cleveland no, but people in chicago gleefully cheering another midwestern towns decline is not very self aware. People from cleveland are great, and it's better than detroit to visit. People from detroit are also nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 What would everyone's reaction be if they changed the White Sox to something like "Southsiders"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Why did sports collectively agree that animals (particularly birds and big cats) are the go-to team name and mascot? Because they're boring and non-offensive. Kudos to Cleveland for trying something with their identity. You're always going to get those people that are upset when something goes against the grain, even if it plays to the local identity and the area supporting the team likes it. Hell, look at the mixed reviews and backlash Kannapolis got on their rebrand to the Cannonballers. Local connection but still has broad appeal and a fun mascot. It's always going to happen that way, and then we'll all get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 all new team names always sound silly, this one is no different. That said, i think in 5 years it will still sound silly. Have a feeling some of this decision was driven by the "IANS" at the end of both Guardians and Indians ... that they kind of sound the same. Which, if part of the reason seems shortsighted. But what do i know? I too wouldve gone with Spiders ... or really anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 The winged G logo is really neat though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, bmags said: no, but people in chicago gleefully cheering another midwestern towns decline is not very self aware. People from cleveland are great, and it's better than detroit to visit. People from detroit are also nice. Jeez man I love Cleveland. I just don’t like the name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 White Sox will be the Indians last home opponent September 26. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, JPR said: I live by the west coast now and here’s an example why. Horrible name choice. Typical overweight, midwest, slow to move decision. They should of chosen spiders You moved to the west coast because of what midwest teams used for sports franchise nicknames? Uh, what? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, mqr said: Jeez man I love Cleveland. I just don’t like the name I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the "fits flyover country" comment. It's okay to hate the logo/name obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: You moved to the west coast because of what midwest teams used for sports franchise nicknames? Uh, what? also nothing says streamlined, fast decisionmaking like california Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, bmags said: also nothing says streamlined, fast decisionmaking like california I don't often find people to fragile to live in the midwest, but here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, bmags said: I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the "fits flyover country" comment. It's okay to hate the logo/name obviously. Oh....I see now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 What a stupid name. Shoulda kept Indians 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 LOGOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, JPR said: Dodgers is the ultimate dodge ball name, that one is cool. So is reds, rays (I live in Arizona and understand how strong the sun really gets closer to the equator), Cubs, and Phillies cuz of the city name Dodgers is because people in Brooklyn used to dodge trolleys. Their name history: Hartfords (they moved from Hartford) Bridegrooms / Grooms (several players got married in one season) Superbas (named after a circus act) Trolley Dodgers, eventually shortened to Dodgers. Reds are named ... for a color. If they picked that name today they be ripped, since it doesn't have big ties to Cincinnati or anything. Rays was a PR move to drop Devil. It's dumb. Cubs was because after their team leader left, they became the Remnants and worst-name-of-all-time, Orphans. They decided a baby animal would be better, so they became Cubs. Philadelphia Phillies would be like having the New York New Yorkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 The logo is atrocious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I’m in town visiting. Couldn’t believe all the cows on tinder and bumble. Yes west coast for sure has way more banging chicks I’m ten minutes from ASU and California girls are flooding our state driving up home prices. My home has gained $30,000 in value since March 8th according to Zillow. I used to not tell Chicago people how better the west is, even Utah or Idaho. You guys need to abandon ship and live a real life. 3 months of summer isn’t living life to the fullest. And guardians… Lol mine as well be the street sweepers with a wack name like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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