Baron Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, GermanSoxFan said: Yeah, Mendick is a really good defender at second. Defensively they dont improve much, if at all His DRS is -3, his revised zone rating is .757 and his URZ/150 is -1.2. How is that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 When you look at his 154 games with Cleveland, that adds up to a decent season. Not exciting, but an upgrade. Now go get some bullpen help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 The pop is desperately needed for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 If he plays to his career norms, and not his 2021 slash line, this is a huge pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 TLR is totally gonna hit him in the 2 spot isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Baron said: His DRS is -3, his revised zone rating is .757 and his URZ/150 is -1.2. How is that good? Defensive metrics for that small of a sample are pretty much useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I dont care what we gave up, I care that this is a move that makes the bench depth deeper but does not guarantee an improvement to the starting group. And it's not a "very big upgrade" when from a total package value standpoint they've been similar players this year. I am not in love with this move either, but Hernandez is a superior player to Leury. Hernandez a lifetime 100 wRC+ hitter; Leury 77. Hernandez an above average defensive 2B. Leury is not. I would have preferred Escobar, but Hernandez has basically been the same player this year with better defense. Is it a sexy move? Absolutely not. But Pilkington is not exactly a focal point of our future and the team got better. Now go trade some 40 man stuff like Lambert, Lopez and Adolfo for some bullpen help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I've always liked this guy, was very underrated with the Phillies. It does seem like he's declined a bit, but he's a good OBP who has found some power, and his numbers this year have been dragged down by a low BABIP, so there's room for the right kind of regression. This is a good pickup IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, mqr said: In what way does adding a 100wrc+ Replacing an 85 guy not equal an improvement. Because on a total package value basis this year they're similar players? One is on a 2.5 per 600 pace the other a 2.2 per 600 pace. In a sample of 70 games, we're talking about replacing just a guy with just another guy. Cesar has a 307 obp with a hr/fb rats 7% higher than his previous career high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleedawg Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 If the sox do not want to pick up Cesar's option next year, I bet they can trade him in the off season for something better than conor pilkington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said: Defensive metrics for that small of a sample are pretty much useless It's 200 innings. Not 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ron883 said: The pop is desperately needed for this team. The pop isn't sustainable either imo. If you wanted pop and a low obp should have gotten escobar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Sox overall I.Q. at 2B just went up 100x too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Anyone check on the NotCishek and the Burger Boys to see if they are Hanging out high 5s for nailing this one? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2chae Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Not the most exciting acquisition but he adds power and is under team control for 2022. He can just slide into the Leury utility role next season. He's also a better player than Leury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Baron said: It's 200 innings. Not 30. That's literally nothing in the world of defensive metrics. One full season is volatile and tough to draw any conclusions from let alone 200 innings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcullotta Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Cesar Hernandez now tied for White Sox lead with 18 Home Runs (Abreu also has 18). Also second in RBI with 47. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, HOFHurt35 said: Anyone check on the NotCishek and the Burger Boys to see if they are Hanging out high 5s for nailing this one? Portillos was taking heat and he got all butthurt for the reliever trade not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 He's a rock solid MLB starter, hard to complain about this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tony said: You guys are such babies I personally like the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, chw42 said: You really think Leury and his .474 OPS vs. teams above .500 is the same as having a league average hitter with pop at 2B? BTW, Hernandez's splits vs. good teams looks about the same as his splits vs. bad teams. Yep was just gonna post this. I like the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: On a per PA basis, leury garcia and cesar Hernandez are nearly identical in worth this year. ROS you're talking a projected difference of like .1-.2 fWAR. Garcia was your second baseman when Robert came back. This is hardly an upgrade. Cesar is typically good with the glove. And his 18 homers show that he can run into one at a moment's notice. Leury has more value moving around the diamond for us than as a mainstay at 2nd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 With what Cleveland does with their pitching, I expect Pilkington to shut us down in the 2nd game of a DH very soon. I wish him the best,,,maybe not since it is Cleveland but good luck nonetheless young man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: I've always liked this guy, was very underrated with the Phillies. It does seem like he's declined a bit, but he's a good OBP who has found some power, and his numbers this year have been dragged down by a low BABIP, so there's room for the right kind of regression. This is a good pickup IMO. He has a 307 obp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) But where will Madrigal play now? Edited July 29, 2021 by ShoeLessRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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