TheTruth05 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Why do i feel like we'll see Sox trade for Mancini or Haniger before 3pm today... just shock us all 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 And we got Cesar for next year too if we want so no it didn’t open another hole, at least not until 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Man in the playoffs the Sox can run a guy out there like Bummer/Kopech/Kimbrel/Crochet out there in the 5th or 6th inning, and not have to worry about the bridge work. This pen is sick, LFG win this thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: oh, only 1/2 half of a season matters for relievers? You could have had Kimbrel, this past off-season, for a bag of balls. I mean, honestly yes, I only care about what a pitcher is at the moment we trade for them, this i slike that dumbass argument that Reynaldo lopez was better than Joe Musgrove because of 2018 in the offseason. And you also just happen to be talking about maybe the one relief pitcher in baseball that has been a fixture for a decade except for a season where he tried to hold out into the season and was terrible, and the covid season, where there was a lot of weird issues. SO taking Craig Kimbrels 3 year sample, in particular, is rich. But I wouldn't care anyway, because we are getting him for what he looks like now. Everybody knows the deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Hot take, this is fucking stupid. Gave up our starting 2B for the next five years minimum. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, upsoxfan said: Bummer and Marshall have been chokers this season. Watch them under pressure as they start to hyperventilate under pressure. They act like they do not want the ball That’s why Bummer can pitch in the 5th or 6th inning when a couple lefties are coming up. Literally the White Sox just need a tie game through 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 My beef is investing in RP's. It's just a terrible strategy. If I'm trading my assets, I'm trading for a Position player. Why not do Crochet, Madrigal and Burger for a Buxton? I'd like to shove like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Without a doubt, adding Kimbrel improves the Sox this year and sets them up for the playoffs. Looking years down the road at who “won” this trade, or what the Sox will do in the off-season for the 2022 roster, let’s save for another day and enjoy this season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyWright Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Huge overpay, Madrigal is going to be such a stud. Before he got injured he was looking so good at the plate. I feel awful about this trade. And Heuer has potential as well...oh well... Based on....? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Marqhead said: Hot take, this is fucking stupid. Gave up our starting 2B for the next five years minimum. Hot take....he would have still been probably their 7th or 8th best offensive weapon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, fathom said: there's a reason he was available the last two offseasons. I don't think he was what they thought he'd be. Also a weird fit chemistry wise. Never really fit in with the clubhouse. Strange kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, DannyWright said: Based on....? As someone mentioned earlier, can people admit they were making ridiculous excuses for him because he didn't play like they thought he would? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I just, I don't know... It's a lot of money tied up in a lot of short-term, high risk value. The only other team in recent history that decided to dump this much money into the back-end of their bullpen is the fucking Rockies, and we're dumping money AND player talent into it. I think there's a good reason that the progressive teams sell off good bullpen pieces every year and seem to find a way to make new ones out of thin air. There are methods for maximizing raw stuff, but these guys typically don't have enough tricks to make it last very long. I know Kimbrel has made a whole career of it, but he also looked completely destroyed for the two season prior to this. Once again, the Sox are making an upgrade, but doing it in a very inefficient way with a fiscal policy that doesn't have much room for inefficiency. I just hope it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, upsoxfan said: Bummer and Marshall have been chokers this season. Watch them under pressure as they start to hyperventilate under pressure. They act like they do not want the ball Marshall is probably never coming back. Bummer is fine and you are overreacting to a SSS coming back off of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Marqhead said: Hot take, this is fucking stupid. Gave up our starting 2B for the next five years minimum. Yeah he was solid, but who cares... he'll hit 300 and not strike out, but 90% of the time hit singles.... his slugging will hover around 400 for his career... MAYBE Edited July 30, 2021 by Soxnfins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The sox having cost controlled position players and SP allowed them to be dumb with the bullpen when they needed it for a playoff push. That's fine. What will keep them competitive in 2025 is that they chose cespedes and colas over a real intl class, AND/OR shirley is a bad scouting director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They chose wrong. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Why do i feel like we'll see Sox trade for Mancini or Haniger before 3pm today... just shock us all Yeah might as well go for it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Huge overpay, Madrigal is going to be such a stud. Before he got injured he was looking so good at the plate. I feel awful about this trade. And Heuer has potential as well...oh well... If he stays healthy he is going to have a great batting average, a modest WAR, and basically never strike out. He will probably be a fan favorite too. But we got Kimbrel. Still would have liked to see Bryant included somehow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, hi8is said: Fuck me. I had such a huge boner for Nicky. I was worried about you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I dont like this. Can't imagine kimbrel is with the sox next year unless cubs paying the great majority of his salary. Also can't imagine getting a madrigal level player for him this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG23SoxFan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Is it possible they are considering to have Kopech eventually added to rotation and make some starts in the playoffs? Then Kimbrel could take on the role Kopech has currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Hot take....he would have still been probably their 7th or 8th best offensive weapon And Kimbrel could easily turn back into the pumpkin he was before. I think it’s any overpay and one we will regret. Hope there’s a better solution to 2B forthcoming. madrigal as the 7th or 8th best offensive weapon speaks to the strength of the lineup, not Madrigal as a weakness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Capn12 said: What about the years before that? Arbitrary timeframes work both ways. I don't really care what 28 year old Kimbrel did. He's 33 going on 34. Guys who age typically don't permanently return to their peak years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This is exactly how I feel. A penny pinching organization trading 6 years of a pitcher for a set up man making 16 million. I quit. See you Parkman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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