KrankinSox Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 pitcher staff in the postseason: Lynn Rodon Giolito Keuchel Cease Kimbrel Hendriks Kopech Tepera Bummer Crochet (if not traded) Heuer Lopez/Burr/Ruiz MERCY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, chw42 said: Yeah this is the biggest issue. Everyone's trying to get a 3 win closer like Kimbrel. He has no real surplus value if you only care about money. But the teams after him kind of don't, they're after wins. If money and surplus was all teams cared about, a Burger+ for Kimbrel swap would be pretty fair. But his market is probably way beyond that right now. Exactly, and we'd be paying that closer price for a guy that isn't even going to fill that role for us. The money just doesn't make sense for this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, macsandz said: True but they'll work him into that role as the season winds down. He'd take Heuer's role and his stuff will play up even more. worked with rodon last year. Foolproof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: It's a club option if he doesn't finish enough games anyhow. It's a vesting option. He has to finish 55 games this year or he gets a $1M buyout. He's currently at 35. The weird '20 season may have automatically triggered the option but I think we would have heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's a vesting option. He has to finish 55 games this year or he gets a $1M buyout. He's currently at 35. The weird '20 season may have automatically triggered the option but I think we would have heard that. It's showing as vested already, but who knows if that's accurate. edit: i was wrong, it defaults to 2021 games with the 2020 issue. Edited July 30, 2021 by Look at Ray Ray Run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Baron said: Be ecstatic with Iglesias as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's a vesting option. He has to finish 55 games this year or he gets a $1M buyout. He's currently at 35. The weird '20 season may have automatically triggered the option but I think we would have heard that. On Spotrac it says it's a vesting/club option. I saw someone else say it turns into a club option in case it doesn't vest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's a vesting option. He has to finish 55 games this year or he gets a $1M buyout. He's currently at 35. The weird '20 season may have automatically triggered the option but I think we would have heard that. It's a vesting option that converts to a team option if he doesnt finish 55 games on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, chw42 said: On Spotrac it says it's a vesting/club option. I saw someone else say it turns into a club option in case it doesn't vest. Thats what @Y2Jimmy0 said on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 White Sox haven’t given up any real prospects of value considering what other teams like the Blue Jays have given up. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them acquire kimbrel and Bryant with Sheets and Burger involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, bmags said: worked with rodon last year. Foolproof. Great point as 2020 Rodon and 2021 Cease are the same guy and Katz was a genius last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, fathom said: Seems like R.Iglesias is a way better fit Why is no one talking about this? His name was thrown out there weeks ago but it's been very quiet. Angels in general have been quiet, 6 games back in the wildcard and a load of teams ahead of them. Low salary so prospect price might be higher, but also a rental as he's a FA next year. Might be the consolation prize for whoever misses on Kimbrel, or you can sneak in now and get him before the Kimbrel deal sets the high water mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, MiddleCoastBias said: Why is no one talking about this? His name was thrown out there weeks ago but it's been very quiet. Angels in general have been quiet, 6 games back in the wildcard and a load of teams ahead of them. Low salary so prospect price might be higher, but also a rental as he's a FA next year. Might be the consolation prize for whoever misses on Kimbrel, or you can sneak in now and get him before the Kimbrel deal sets the high water mark. Because Kimbrel is gonna hold up his market. Once he's gone teams will pivot if they have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 One thing I would like to say that appears unpopular is I would trade Crochet for Kimbrel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, bmags said: One thing I would like to say that appears unpopular is I would trade Crochet for Kimbrel I would too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) I would not trade Crochet, Kopech, or Kelley for almost anything. They’re too valuable given Rodon leaving for Boras money. Edited July 30, 2021 by JPR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, bmags said: One thing I would like to say that appears unpopular is I would trade Crochet for Kimbrel I would want bryant as well, then im good involving croch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 With Kimbrel, you can get at least a portion of what you gave up back in the offseason. I really don't care which one of these guys they get, just get one, or maybe a starter, and maybe a catcher. Looks like they may be giving a couple of those away in the next couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, iWiN4PreP said: I would want bryant as well, then im good involving croch Burger, Crochet for Bryant and Kimbrel. Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, macsandz said: Great point as 2020 Rodon and 2021 Cease are the same guy and Katz was a genius last season. This is a dumb plan for the white sox to rely on, as it was last year. If katz is a genius with bullpen then go prove it with our bullpen pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: Kimbrel with his contract has no surplus value, I‘d be surprised if the prospect price is huge In this case, the price is going to be determined by the number of serious suitors, not the free agent market value of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Baron said: This is literally Kaplan trying to build a deadline market for his Cubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, JPR said: I would not trade Crochet, Kopech, or Kelley for almost anything. They’re too valuable given Rodon leaving for Boras money. You wouldn't trade Jared Kelley for anything. What?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, macsandz said: This is literally Kaplan trying to build a deadline market for his Cubs There is a deadline market for Kimbrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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