Tnetennba Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Billy Donovan needs to look in the mirror. I’m no expert at Xs & Os, but I still don’t see any semblance of an offensive system being run. Ball & player movement get stagnant, picks but no rolls, bad dumb shots, overpassing leading to worse shots, and far too much reliance on isolation. The lack of size and reliable 3 point shooting is catching up as well. I get that we are only a month into the season, but I would hope we would start to see the offense click more but the past two games were atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 11 hours ago, chw42 said: There's no good reason it was supposed to be a close game, but the ref calling offensive foul on Lonzo for just falling down completely changed the game's momentum late. I've never seen a ref fuck up that bad, have it be reviewed and still have it stand. Absolute bullshit. That foul was baffling and one of the most egregious phantom fouls I have ever seen. How the call stood after review is beyond comprehension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: Billy Donovan needs to look in the mirror. I’m no expert at Xs & Os, but I still don’t see any semblance of an offensive system being run. Ball & player movement get stagnant, picks but no rolls, bad dumb shots, overpassing leading to worse shots, and far too much reliance on isolation. The lack of size and reliable 3 point shooting is catching up as well. I get that we are only a month into the season, but I would hope we would start to see the offense click more but the past two games were atrocious. I see this as well. Very rarely do I see them score and think, "that was a nice drawn up play". There doesn't seem to be a lot of easy baskets right now for the offense in a half court set. The half court offense runs strictly through Zach and DeMar's talent as scorers. Vucevic figuring out his shooting problems would help as well. His COVID stint really came at a terrible time because be was just starting to shoot and play better right before he got it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 That horrible call on Lonzo's "offensive foul" changed the momentum of that game. But you can't leave any game in the hands of the refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 In general the refs have been awful in Bulls games - but they need to play on a day in day our basis. Can’t coast cause a team has a bad record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fathom Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Bulls were better when Coby was off the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Bulls were better when Coby was off the roster He's gonna need some time, but I just don't think he's that good to begin with. They lost today cause nobody besides DeRozan and Caruso shot the ball well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Bulls were better when Coby was off the roster I think he's walking trade bait at this point. Yes there are nights when he'll get hot and help carry a team but he is way too inconsistent to he counted on not to mention his sup par basketball I.Q. and tunnel vision. And godspeed Jokic. I hope he decides to come here. Cause Vucevic... ain't... it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Oh.. and Spoelstra is a fantastic coach. His in game adjustments down the stretch were right on the money. Bulls did a terrible job adjusting to what Miami was doing. Donovan definitely got outcoached in this one. Edited November 28, 2021 by SoxAce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Bulls win if they shoot halfway decent beyond the arc. The turnovers were bad but they cleaned it up in the 2nd half. Shots just weren’t falling, it is what is is. The Heat’s defense ain’t no joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 53 minutes ago, SoxAce said: I think he's walking trade bait at this point. Yes there are nights when he'll get hot and help carry a team but he is way too inconsistent to he counted on not to mention his sup par basketball I.Q. and tunnel vision. And godspeed Jokic. I hope he decides to come here. Cause Vucevic... ain't... it. Vuc is having a subpar season, fer sure. And who wouldn't want an MVP center? Maybe our guy will get it together; long way to go yet. Coby? Even if he gets it together, who wants a player who has a good game every ten days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Bulls win if they shoot halfway decent beyond the arc. The turnovers were bad but they cleaned it up in the 2nd half. Shots just weren’t falling, it is what is is. The Heat’s defense ain’t no joke Heat couldn’t miss a three late…bulls were very unlike themselves in turnover front and Vuc was straight trash late in the game (and throughout the game). Meanwhile Bulls missed a ton of open looks throughout. The Pacers and Rockets games were brutal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Is it me or is the Bulls schedule brutal early in season. Looking forward next two weeks almost all real quality teams. Or maybe it is just a sign of the nba today with a ton of teams trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: Is it me or is the Bulls schedule brutal early in season. Looking forward next two weeks almost all real quality teams. Or maybe it is just a sign of the nba today with a ton of teams trying. 10 games in 17 days with I believe 3 b2b, that's a lot of ball in a short period of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 Yeah it's both. Not a lot of games to hide (ahem...houston), but what they put the bulls through in november was ridiculous. Putting a back to back after a west coast road trip, then sending them to orlando, then back home to play the heat, just all ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chw42 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Bulls trying to blow a 20 point lead again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Vucevic was outstanding. By far his best game (and I'd argue his best game in a Bulls uniform). 5 players in our lineup had 5 or more assists. That'll do. Oh and LaMelo Ball is a dude. That kid is gonna be a problem down the road if he improves his shot like his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Vucevic was outstanding. By far his best game (and I'd argue his best game in a Bulls uniform). 5 players in our lineup had 5 or more assists. That'll do. Oh and LaMelo Ball is a dude. That kid is gonna be a problem down the road if he improves his shot like his brother. The good news is - Lavar will want him in a big market and if Lonzo fits in Chicago that means the stars would align towards a great player wanting to come to the Bulls (in time). Heck - from that other tweet it sounds like Big Baller Brands is already working a bit to make that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 How fun would a team with Lonzo, LaMelo, and Lavine be? You could stash Liangelo at the back of the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, scs787 said: How fun would a team with Lonzo, LaMelo, and Lavine be? You could stash Liangelo at the back of the bench. It would be absolutely insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 15 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: It's almost as if the previous management team was holding the Bulls back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 15 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: That last quote is definitely something Lavar would say. Maybe in a few years the Bulls will become the Chicago Balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 If anyone watched NYK vs. BKN you saw a great NBA classic. Takeaways: Couple bigs doing pine duty that could help the Bulls out right now. Go get 'em. Lots of familiar faces on both sides. Our old JJ that Thibs misused and then doghoused and demoted before he was traded away with the winning free throws. Good for him, closing over the benched Blake Griffin. About those last free throws: They were up by 1 with 2.2 seconds to go after he made the first. Coach Nash should have told him to miss the second. NYK with no timeouts (Thibs hasn't changed there) would have to throw the rebound 70 feet to get a 2 point shot off and the clock would run out. Same for the three pointer, unlikely timewise but it beats you either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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