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2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Either Hernandez dramatically improved after his start vs. Detroit where he gave up 6 runs in 4 innings or we just straight up suck on offense. Before Hernandez faced us last week his numbers were complete crap. 

I think this is a bit different than getting shutdown by KC's other mediocre starters. Hernandez has an elite strikeout rate, can hit 100, and he at least throws 4 pitches. Guys like this are going to dominate even very good lineups sometimes.

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5 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Either Hernandez dramatically improved after his start vs. Detroit where he gave up 6 runs in 4 innings or we just straight up suck on offense. Before Hernandez faced us last week his numbers were complete crap. 

I'm sure fans said that about Cease last year when he had his sporadic dominant game. Hernandez has very good stuff, just hasn't put it together yet. But guys with his kind of stuff who hasn't quite mastered it yet will have a game like this from time to time.

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1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I guess we can't take bumslaying for granted. After today Cease will have better FIP than Giolito and maybe ERA too.

Cease's FIP is gonna be half a run lower after tonight. This is probably Gio's worst start in a long time. 

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2 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

I'm sure fans said that about Cease last year when he had his sporadic dominant game. Hernandez has very good stuff, just hasn't put it together yet. But guys with his kind of stuff who hasn't quite mastered it yet will have a game like this from time to time.

Like the last time against the White Sox? 

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1 minute ago, chw42 said:

If this is Lucas without his good slider, then yikes. 

Why do Collins/lucas still calling for sliders tonight? It’s been a gopher ball barrage and has been beyond Salvador Perez.  We would normally say don’t let Salvador beat us, but Salvador has only accounted for 2 runs out of 6.

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Just now, hankchifan said:

Why do Collins/lucas still calling for sliders tonight? It’s been a gopher ball barrage and has been beyond Salvador Perez.  We would normally say don’t let Salvador beat us, but Salvador has only accounted for 2 runs out of 6.

Lucas knows he can't just be a fastball/change-up guy without the goop. That's why his slider and curve usage have gone way up since June 23rd.

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Just now, maxjusttyped said:

Hopefully Giolito struggling a bit this season will at least make him signing an extension more likely to happen.

Between Rodon, Giolito and Kopech... the 2nd and 3rd starters for a playoff series are becoming question marks.  Yet it's really hard to trust Cease, although he might actually end up retaining the best stuff at season's end. 

Of course, some of it's too much familiarity with Giolito on the part of KC, but seemingly hasn't impacted Hernandez. 

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Just now, caulfield12 said:

Between Rodon, Giolito and Kopech... the 2nd and 3rd starters for a playoff series are becoming question marks.  Yet it's really hard to trust Cease, although he might actually end up retaining the best stuff at season's end. 

Of course, some of it's too much familiarity with Giolito on the part of KC, but seemingly hasn't impacted Hernandez. 

If Giolito and Rodon are serious question marks, then imagine how every other team except the Dodgers is feeling about their playoff rotation

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