he gone. Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 So this one is a bit in the eye of the beholder ... if you just go on results you might quickly say Rodon or Lynn. You might say Abreu. That said, I think it's deeper than that. Without Eloy and Robert we had no DH and no LF going into the year. Where would this team be without that amazing April by Yermin? How about Rodon? With him as our #5 coming into the season I'd guess we were all expecting 15-20 starts of 4.50ERA ball. It's hard to imagine where we are without him. Lynn? He might win the Cy Young, but the expectations were higher. Personally I'd say Rodon was more important to this team. Same with Abreu - it's so consistent it's almost boring, but he puts up numbers. The bench squad? Nothing about Billy Hamilton is sexy, but it's hard to argue the importance of those guys throughout the whole season. Lopez is a late entry. He didn't really come in at a time when wins mattered as much, but he's handled himself quite well. So it's a bit objective of how you look at this team. Will be interested to see the results. my personal order ... and thought process, if you take that guy away, who was the most important to our current success? I'd go: Rodon Anderson Abreu Yermin Lynn Bench Mob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 It's Abreu, and I don't think it is particularly close. The only other guy with a real case is TA, and he has just missed too many games. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 the guy with the 900+ OPS and 420+ OBP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Two of the top three players aren't even options. Hard pass on voting. Name Age G PA HR SB BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ BsR Off Def WAR Yoan Moncada 26 124 529 11 3 13.6% 25.9% .134 .354 .263 .372 .397 .341 119 0.6 12.7 6.9 3.8 Tim Anderson 28 108 484 14 17 3.9% 21.5% .156 .364 .302 .331 .458 .337 116 4.2 13.7 5.0 3.5 Yasmani Grandal 32 72 285 19 0 23.9% 23.9% .300 .236 .233 .419 .533 .406 162 -2.7 19.0 2.6 3.1 Jose Abreu 34 132 568 28 1 8.5% 22.4% .231 .294 .263 .345 .494 .357 129 -3.6 16.7 -8.8 2.7 Luis Robert 23 48 208 7 5 4.8% 21.2% .195 .400 .333 .370 .528 .381 146 1.1 12.7 0.0 2.0 Leury Garcia 30 106 392 3 6 9.4% 21.7% .097 .335 .262 .337 .359 .308 96 5.1 3.2 2.1 1.9 Nick Madrigal 24 54 215 2 1 5.1% 7.9% .120 .324 .305 .349 .425 .335 115 1.2 5.0 1.5 1.4 Adam Engel 29 33 121 7 7 8.3% 19.8% .257 .253 .248 .339 .505 .359 131 0.9 5.5 -0.1 1.0 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Frank Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 56 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Two of the top three players aren't even options. Hard pass on voting. Name Age G PA HR SB BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ BsR Off Def WAR Yoan Moncada 26 124 529 11 3 13.6% 25.9% .134 .354 .263 .372 .397 .341 119 0.6 12.7 6.9 3.8 Tim Anderson 28 108 484 14 17 3.9% 21.5% .156 .364 .302 .331 .458 .337 116 4.2 13.7 5.0 3.5 Yasmani Grandal 32 72 285 19 0 23.9% 23.9% .300 .236 .233 .419 .533 .406 162 -2.7 19.0 2.6 3.1 Jose Abreu 34 132 568 28 1 8.5% 22.4% .231 .294 .263 .345 .494 .357 129 -3.6 16.7 -8.8 2.7 Luis Robert 23 48 208 7 5 4.8% 21.2% .195 .400 .333 .370 .528 .381 146 1.1 12.7 0.0 2.0 Leury Garcia 30 106 392 3 6 9.4% 21.7% .097 .335 .262 .337 .359 .308 96 5.1 3.2 2.1 1.9 Nick Madrigal 24 54 215 2 1 5.1% 7.9% .120 .324 .305 .349 .425 .335 115 1.2 5.0 1.5 1.4 Adam Engel 29 33 121 7 7 8.3% 19.8% .257 .253 .248 .339 .505 .359 131 0.9 5.5 -0.1 1.0 Yeah my thought was Yoan and that was before I looked at this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I'd go Rodon. But Andrew is definitely the position player MVP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I don't know about MVP, but one could argue that the guy who has been the key to the offense has been Grandal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, wegner said: I don't know about MVP, but one could argue that the guy who has been the key to the offense has been Grandal. On a per game basis, there's no question he's been most valuable. He just didn't play enough games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Colome's Hat said: I'd go Rodon. But Andrew is definitely the position player MVP. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Availability is key for me. Abreu has taken a beating all season, he answers the bell every time. That's an MVP for me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) I honestly think its CRAZY that Abreu is leading. I could probably put 4 players easily ahead of him (Lynn, Rodon, Hendriks, Anderson). You could even make a case for Moncada without too much effort too. Edited September 10, 2021 by Squirmin' for Yermin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Two of the top three players aren't even options. Hard pass on voting. Name Age G PA HR SB BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ BsR Off Def WAR Yoan Moncada 26 124 529 11 3 13.6% 25.9% .134 .354 .263 .372 .397 .341 119 0.6 12.7 6.9 3.8 Tim Anderson 28 108 484 14 17 3.9% 21.5% .156 .364 .302 .331 .458 .337 116 4.2 13.7 5.0 3.5 Yasmani Grandal 32 72 285 19 0 23.9% 23.9% .300 .236 .233 .419 .533 .406 162 -2.7 19.0 2.6 3.1 Jose Abreu 34 132 568 28 1 8.5% 22.4% .231 .294 .263 .345 .494 .357 129 -3.6 16.7 -8.8 2.7 Luis Robert 23 48 208 7 5 4.8% 21.2% .195 .400 .333 .370 .528 .381 146 1.1 12.7 0.0 2.0 Leury Garcia 30 106 392 3 6 9.4% 21.7% .097 .335 .262 .337 .359 .308 96 5.1 3.2 2.1 1.9 Nick Madrigal 24 54 215 2 1 5.1% 7.9% .120 .324 .305 .349 .425 .335 115 1.2 5.0 1.5 1.4 Adam Engel 29 33 121 7 7 8.3% 19.8% .257 .253 .248 .339 .505 .359 131 0.9 5.5 -0.1 1.0 Sorry to offend you so much with a poll. Hope you can push through and have a great weekend ... Feel free to write your vote in. I'll make sure to count it into the imaginary soxtalk votes that are registered to the fake mvp award that is (not) awarded to any player in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Availability is key for me. Abreu has taken a beating all season, he answers the bell every time. That's an MVP for me. Ya, it's tough argue that he hasn't been the glue through it all. I chose Rodon, but that's in part against expectations and how much he has helped this team against our normal #5 starter we've become accustom to over the past 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: ??? Andrew Vaughn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I’ll take the bench mob. I know they are infuriating to watch when they are in the lineup everyday, but they’ve each had some big moments and despite missing half our team for half the season running away with a division, however bad, is no small feat. A lot of credit to the plug and play nature of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Colome's Hat said: Andrew Vaughn I know who he is. But 98 ops+ guy isn't the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 TLR isn’t an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Abreu shows up every day and consistently gets the big knock. Anderson seems to inject life into the whole team. Roden stabilized the starting staff from out of nowhere. I won't argue with any of them being labeled as most important to this years success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 mendick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I know Yermin had a great month but surely you have included him in the MVP voting just for a laugh? He hasn't even been at the team for months! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 same guy it usually is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Lynn wasn't a sure thing in our park. People were concerned he'd give up a ton of homers. Carlos was a GREAT unexpected addition, but Lynn solidified the rotation and dominated in a season where our ace was having a down year. Edited September 11, 2021 by black jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Yasmanian Devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Yasmani or Lynn, quite easily. Edited September 11, 2021 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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