Flash Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 A bit juvenile of me but it was fun reviewing preseason posts about possible (Food Guys) trade for Burnes and hypothetical players we might send. Not gonna name names but several on this Board were opposed to even considering including names like Kelley, Madrigal, Steiver, Heuer, Vaughn and, God forbid, Jimenez. I recall spirited debate as to who is the better pitcher, Burnes or Giolito. Sorry for being so trivial but just wanted to drive a final stake into the whole 'Burnes relative value' discussion. Where Corbin Burnes now ranks in baseball among qualified pitchers: fWAR: 1st (7.1) ERA: 1st (2.25) FIP: 1st (1.50) xERA: 1st (1.89) xFIP: 1st (2.30) SIERA: 1st (2.59) K-BB%: 1st (30.5) HR/9: 1st (0.30) Barrel rate: 1st (2.6) K%: 1st-t (35.4) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 It was simply a rumor. Who knows if it had any legs to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, ron883 said: It was simply a rumor. Who knows if it had any legs to it. What's interesting is that the 2 guys rumored to go were Heuer and Madrigal. And then we actually ended up trading them for Kimbrel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, chw42 said: What's interesting is that the 2 guys rumored to go were Heuer and Madrigal. And then we actually ended up trading them for Kimbrel. Should've pulled the old thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Why would the Brewers trade him, they are trying to win? Burnes would cost a ton, at least two top100 prospects with one of them top20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: Why would the Brewers trade him, they are trying to win? Burnes would cost a ton, at least two top100 prospects with one of them top20. That’s the whole thing. It wasn’t real. Sure the Sox might have inquired and thrown some names at them, but it wasn’t going to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: Why would the Brewers trade him, they are trying to win? Burnes would cost a ton, at least two top100 prospects with one of them top20. The Brewers were seeking a starting second baseman, and Heuer would have been a key set up man this season, so both teams would have benefited this season. Plus many thought the Cardinals were a lock after acquiring Arenado, not sure what the Brewers’ FO felt heading into this season. Edited September 12, 2021 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Lock this thread and ban OP, thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 15 hours ago, ron883 said: Lock this thread and ban OP, thanks Not gonna do any of this but I do wonder why he is yelling at all of us with the caps large font 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Now talk about how we could have traded Leury Garcia/Matt Foster for Max Scherzer, Trea Turner and Juan Soto and blew that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 20 hours ago, chw42 said: What's interesting is that the 2 guys rumored to go were Heuer and Madrigal. And then we actually ended up trading them for Kimbrel. Which makes me think there was more smoke than maybe we knew. Or it could've been as simple as the Sox haven't been as high on those two and were willing to use them as bait. We could've offered those two to the Brewers and they laughed us off. The other thing I forget though - when was this rumor out there? A lot of things couldve led to us not resigning Rodon, which would've sent this season in a whole direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, RibbieRubarb said: Now talk about how we could have traded Leury Garcia/Matt Foster for Max Scherzer, Trea Turner and Juan Soto and blew that! I have always wondered if we could have gotten Soto instead of Lopez... Or even Dunning. OUCH! I don't think i wanna know LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Not gonna do any of this but I do wonder why he is yelling at all of us with the caps large font Third word in the post is "juvenile." But I went back and looked at what the ask was according to Reddit Insider Man: It was Madrigal, Heuer, Stiever, Thompson and then the Brewers came back asking for Crochet. Also worth noting Rodon hadn't resigned, so you're not replacing Keuchel in the rotation, you're replacing Rodon. You're swapping in Burnes for Rodon, Mendick for Madrigal way earlier, I guess ReyLo for Heuer (and who knows which ReyLo that is. I don't know if Charlotte was good or bad for him), and...Mike Wright/Kyle Crick for Crochet? If it was just Madrigal, Heuer and minor leaguers + you could keep Rodon and jettison Keuchel, by all means, do that all day every day. But it's not a vacuum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I don't know what the old thread was but there were a bunch of people basically saying Burnes sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I have always wondered if we could have gotten Soto instead of Lopez... Or even Dunning. OUCH! I don't think i wanna know LOL The Sox were thought to be the team that was going to sign Soto at one time but the Nats came in at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Not gonna do any of this but I do wonder why he is yelling at all of us with the caps large font Not sure why anyone should care about larger than normal font size. I don't feel yelled at . I appreciate the effort to reduce eye strain. 44 minutes ago, raBBit said: I don't know what the old thread was but there were a bunch of people basically saying Burnes sucks. Not sucks necessarily the way I remember it but more like not established enough to give up so much . Others believed he was going to be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Not sure why anyone should care about larger than normal font size. I don't feel yelled at . I appreciate the effort to reduce eye strain. Not sucks necessarily the way I remember it but more like not established enough to give up so much . Others believed he was going to be great. Man there you go again belaboring my point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, raBBit said: I don't know what the old thread was but there were a bunch of people basically saying Burnes sucks. Fans can't see past the nose on their face. A players stats that day is what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: The Sox were thought to be the team that was going to sign Soto at one time but the Nats came in at the end. The Sox were in on him, but the Nats had more Intl Money...I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Wasn't he the 3rd baseman in Major League? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Wasn't he the 3rd baseman in Major League? Think that was Wesley Snipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, T R U said: Think that was Wesley Snipes He was the CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Wasn't he the 3rd baseman in Major League? That was Roger Dorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 me in 2017 "what will soxtalk be like when we're out of this rebuild, up 10 games in september?" soxtalk 2021 "isn't corbin burnes actually wesley snipes?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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