caulfield12 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/roberlu01.shtml Some pretty eye popping numbers, other than RBI’s…which is due as much as anything due to his spot in the order. Looking at 25-35 homers per season, probably not the huge stolen base numbers (for injury reasons alone) but roughly 15-25 could reasonably be expected. Mid 800’s OPS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I thought this is what Luis Robert would eventually become, but I didn't think he'd get there this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Considering his improved approach and tool to grow - It seems those numbers may be on the lower end of his scale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 He is like that one kid on the little league team that happened to have grown sooner than the rest of the kids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The scout that said he was the best player on the planet may end up being right. I don't think he's scratched the surface of where his ceiling is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 His current WAR for this season extrapolated for a full 162 game is 9. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, hi8is said: Considering his improved approach and tool to grow - It seems those numbers may be on the lower end of his scale. I agree and love it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 162 game averages are 29 homers, 94 RBI and .860 OPS. 15 more years of that works for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) Before it's all said and done Robert will put up better numbers than Eloy yearly. Edited September 25, 2021 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, Soxfest said: Before it's all said and done Robert will put up better numbers than Eloy yearly. A properly performing Eloy will likely put up more homers, but Robert will be the superior player in all other aspects 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 He's hitting .355 this year. I expect batting titles and .350+ avg at least once in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The thing is I never thought Robert would hit for high average. If he can put up .300, he may well be a superstar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The thing is I never thought Robert would hit for high average. If he can put up .300, he may well be a superstar. He's hitting .355. If he doesn't put up multiple .300+ seasons, it will be disappointing at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookiesOnRitalin Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 My big criticism of Luis last year was how bad the strikeouts were and until he fixed it, we really needed to dampen expectations. With 40 more plate appearances, he's actually struck out 20 less times. That's pretty good improvement and consequently all of his numbers have improved along with it. His approach is better and hopefully he keeps improving from this point on. You know, one day, these bats we have we all actually click at the same time. I just hope that happens in the Houston series. It seems as though no one is hot together. Just one guy and then cools off, then someone else. Can we get these guys to hit at the same time? That would be convenient. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The thing is I never thought Robert would hit for high average. If he can put up .300, he may well be a superstar. I think he already is a superstar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, ron883 said: He's hitting .355. If he doesn't put up multiple .300+ seasons, it will be disappointing at this point Oh he's on a hot steak, no doubt, but it wasn't something I thought was in his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 hours ago, hi8is said: Considering his improved approach and tool to grow - It seems those numbers may be on the lower end of his scale. Wouldn't that be wonderful if how he has performed since coming back from injury is the player he is going to be ? Can you imagine if this just isn't some sort of hot streak and he's going to be a .350 hitter with 40 HR's ? He isn't even 100% yet judging by his comments about still feeling pain some times and he slows himself down then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Hopefully he’ll be able to play a full season next year. Luis and Grandal are fresh at this point (Eloy is as well, but still hasn’t found his timing / the right approach), so hopefully they can remain hot in October. The extended rest seemed to rejuvenate Tim’s bat as well. Luis just turned 24, and has minimal exposure to pitchers, so he should continue to improve and learn with more at bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackowiakYakYak Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Robert’s improvement on Ks from 32% to 20% has been a pleasant surprise but everyone needs to slow down on talk about hitting .350. If he had enough plate appearances to qualify his .422 babip would be the highest of single season babip of any player post-WWII. For comparison Rod Carew holds the record with a babip of .408 in 1977. Interestingly, one of the keys of consistently hitting for elite batting average is walking. If you’re walking it decreases the total number of balls in play over a season and keeps regression from kicking in. Robert is walking half as much this season as last (8% to 4%) so I wouldn’t start projecting historic seasons until he shows he can create an elite approach to hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Spumoni said: A properly performing Eloy will likely put up more homers, but Robert will be the superior player in all other aspects Right on. Eloy is not a 5 tool player like Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Soxfest said: Before it's all said and done Robert will put up better numbers than Eloy yearly. I'm just hoping Eloy, Robert and Vaughn are in a dead heat for best Sox hitter in the coming years...that'll be a very good thing for our team...and that's not even taking TA into consideration, haha! Edited September 25, 2021 by MexSoxFan#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 hours ago, MackowiakYakYak said: Robert’s improvement on Ks from 32% to 20% has been a pleasant surprise but everyone needs to slow down on talk about hitting .350. If he had enough plate appearances to qualify his .422 babip would be the highest of single season babip of any player post-WWII. For comparison Rod Carew holds the record with a babip of .408 in 1977. Interestingly, one of the keys of consistently hitting for elite batting average is walking. If you’re walking it decreases the total number of balls in play over a season and keeps regression from kicking in. Robert is walking half as much this season as last (8% to 4%) so I wouldn’t start projecting historic seasons until he shows he can create an elite approach to hitting. This just isn't true. Correlation does not equal causation here. People with better plate discipline may be better hitters on average but walking more doesn't signify a higher batting average. High BABIPs have a lot of impacting factors; speed, going the other way, hard hit rate and etc. Those are all things Robert has become elite at. Will he hit 355 next year? Probably not, but if he hits a few more home runs and maintains a similar approach his average should be much better than people expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackowiakYakYak Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This just isn't true. Correlation does not equal causation here. People with better plate discipline may be better hitters on average but walking more doesn't signify a higher batting average. High BABIPs have a lot of impacting factors; speed, going the other way, hard hit rate and etc. Those are all things Robert has become elite at. Will he hit 355 next year? Probably not, but if he hits a few more home runs and maintains a similar approach his average should be much better than people expected. I don’t disagree except that to maintain an outlier babip it helps to have fewer balls being put in play. People were throwing around him hitting .350 so I wanted to talk about what it might take for him to produce a .350 season. Completely agree that creating more walks often leads to more strikeouts and therefore a lower average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 6 hours ago, MexSoxFan#1 said: I'm just hoping Eloy, Robert and Vaughn are in a dead heat for best Sox hitter in the coming years...that'll be a very good thing for our team...and that's not even taking TA into consideration, haha! Or Moncada to be honest. There is a lot of (frankly, justified) disappointment in him as a hitter this season, but let's not ignore the fact that he does something that is very important to those who bat behind him. He gets on base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This just isn't true. Correlation does not equal causation here. People with better plate discipline may be better hitters on average but walking more doesn't signify a higher batting average. Yep. Exhibit A 2021 .305 BA / 20 BB 2020 .322 / 10 2019 .335 / 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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