wegner Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: What happens if he no longer is under consideration? Keuchel? Bad Sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Larussa says a lot of stupid things. There should be no consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Larussa says a lot of stupid things. There should be no consideration. There's no reason to tell Houston what pitchers they have to prepare for until MLB mandates it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, Balta1701 said: There's no reason to tell Houston what pitchers they have to prepare for until MLB mandates it. exactly. Imagine thinking TLR is stupid for not letting them know who to prepare for, man we have some dumb takes here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: exactly. Imagine thinking TLR is stupid for not letting them know who to prepare for, man we have some dumb takes here. prepare for? How much film room do you really think our guys/their guys go through? Can't be weeks worth on each pitcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: prepare for? How much film room do you really think our guys/their guys go through? Can't be weeks worth on each pitcher. Um...The Astros have something of a sordid history involving their use of video. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: exactly. Imagine thinking TLR is stupid for not letting them know who to prepare for, man we have some dumb takes here. I expect Rodon and Kopech will combine for 6-7 innings which is no surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Larussa says a lot of stupid things. There should be no consideration. What exactly would you like him to say? He was never going to say anything either way as he does not need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Not going to lie, a little bit worried about all the fly outs Rodon converted in his last start. Do some of those turn into liners and homeruns against a stronger offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: prepare for? How much film room do you really think our guys/their guys go through? Can't be weeks worth on each pitcher. During the regular season, the team's advance scouts usually scout the opponent a week before they play them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: exactly. Imagine thinking TLR is stupid for not letting them know who to prepare for, man we have some dumb takes here. yeah, Houston has no idea what pitchers are going to throw. It's top secret. Heard Black Jack might be coming out of retirement. Serious question, do you think you go into the series differently as the Astros if Lynn goes game 1 instead of Giolito? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, ptatc said: During the regular season, the team's advance scouts usually scout the opponent a week before they play them. Regular season is over. Advance scouts scout based on all pitchers in a rotation. The scouting report on the guys the Sox are pitching is out. The order of which they pitch is entirely meaningless. The Sox aren't going to be throwing some unknown arm out there. The Astros aren't going to prepare differently for the series based on the order the White Sox decide to throw their pitchers. I've got no issue with LaRussa waiting - because who cares, honestly? - but playing this off as optimal strategy is comical. Nothing changes. The same guys are going to play. There are no secret weapons waiting in the wings that the Astros don't know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Regular season is over. Advance scouts scout based on all pitchers in a rotation. The scouting report on the guys the Sox are pitching is out. The order of which they pitch is entirely meaningless. The Sox aren't going to be throwing some unknown arm out there. The Astros aren't going to prepare differently for the series based on the order the White Sox decide to throw their pitchers. I've got no issue with LaRussa waiting - because who cares, honestly? - but playing this off as optimal strategy is comical. Nothing changes. The same guys are going to play. There are no secret weapons waiting in the wings that the Astros don't know about. You think they do absolutely no advanced preparation for the teams in the playoffs? I haven't actually been in the league in a few years but I doubt they ignore everything and say "it's the playoffs, we can't prepare anything, just wing it." the scouting they did mid-season for these pitchers could very well be different from the way they pitched early in the year. I guarantee there is more scouting and preparation going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: You think they do absolutely no advanced preparation for the teams in the playoffs? I haven't actually been in the league in a few years but I doubt they ignore everything and say "it's the playoffs, we can't prepare anything, just wing it." the scouting they did mid-season for these pitchers could very well be different from the way they pitched early in the year. I guarantee there is more scouting and preparation going on. I'm not sure what you're asking. They're going to prepare for the pitchers they're going to face. The order they face them is pretty meaningless. There are no games being played right now. The analysis of the data and information is being done for the series, not for the order the Sox chose to throw their guys. That's all I'm saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Larussa says a lot of stupid things. There should be no consideration. Do you want his social security number too? I mean as old as he is, it is probably like five numbers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I think what is trying to be said is that Tony does have an advantage by not saying if Rodon or even Kuechel will be out. If it is not announced, the Astros have to do some work on scouting/culling/analyzing/prepping etc ahead of time. If they don't pitch or are ruled out later then that time and effort was wasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I'm not sure what you're asking. They're going to prepare for the pitchers they're going to face. The order they face them is pretty meaningless. There are no games being played right now. The analysis of the data and information is being done for the series, not for the order the Sox chose to throw their guys. That's all I'm saying. right and any advantage that a manger/coach thinks they can get over another team, they will take. If its withholding who may be the starting pitcher on a given day or for a series they will do. Also, the report on the pitchers may be quite a bit different then it was earlier so it may something new happening right now, so the manager isn't going to give them anymore information to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Do you want his social security number too? I mean as old as he is, it is probably like five numbers. There were just over 1 million Social Security beneficiaries (8-1-44) when Tony La Russa was born. Today, there are just under 70 million beneficiaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, South Side Hit Men said: There were just over 1 million Social Security beneficiaries (8-1-44) when Tony La Russa was born. Today, there are just under 70 million beneficiaries. It was a joke, but OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: It was a joke, but OK. I understand, but thought it was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: I think what is trying to be said is that Tony does have an advantage by not saying if Rodon or even Kuechel will be out. If it is not announced, the Astros have to do some work on scouting/culling/analyzing/prepping etc ahead of time. If they don't pitch or are ruled out later then that time and effort was wasted. Do the Astros really need to prepare for keuchel? If anything we should say we're pitching Dallas in hopes of the Astros throwing a party and getting too hammered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 cant imagine the level of 4D chess that TLR pulls on everyone when Rodon is our game 1 starter last minute and is throwing 98+ and dominates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, reiks12 said: cant imagine the level of 4D chess that TLR pulls on everyone when Rodon is our game 1 starter last minute and is throwing 98+ and dominates. I would love if Rodon somehow found that heater again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Is it odd that Rodon would have a throwing day today if he wasn’t going to pitch again until Sunday? That just seems like a very long gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 48 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Is it odd that Rodon would have a throwing day today if he wasn’t going to pitch again until Sunday? That just seems like a very long gap. Secret game 2 starter/opener? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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