whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The guys that built one of the best teams in the American League? did you miss the part where I said MLB talent? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 even spending 15 million on hendriks is a mistake if they can't use him properly (they can't) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The guys that built one of the best teams in the American League? You want me to run a list of trades and free agent signings for established MLB talent that have been made under the Williams/hahn regime? it wont be pretty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: "Man I fuckin love wind" No I'm a reasonable man I just want someone to say the sox playing Spring Training in Arizona was a big factor for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bmags said: No I'm a reasonable man I just want someone to say the sox playing Spring Training in Arizona was a big factor for me. Maybe the Sox should consider moving their Spring Training site back to Florida. Lol Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: You want me to run a list of trades and free agent signings for established MLB talent that have been made under the Williams/hahn regime? it wont be pretty Do you want me to run a list of trades and signings that include the following: Giolito, Moncada, Eloy, Cease, Kopech, Robert, Abreu, Dunning (got us Lynn), traded for Eaton (got us Giolito), Claimed Quintana (got EloyCease), I am sure there is many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Do you want me to run a list of trades and signings that include the following: Giolito, Moncada, Eloy, Cease, Kopech, Robert, Abreu, Dunning (got us Lynn), traded for Eaton (got us Giolito), Claimed Quintana (got EloyCease), I am sure there is many more. You just clearly didn't get the point. Never said they couldn't evaluate MILB talent well. They can. Maybe they should stick to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Do you want me to run a list of trades and signings that include the following: Giolito, Moncada, Eloy, Cease, Kopech, Robert, Abreu, Dunning (got us Lynn), traded for Eaton (got us Giolito), Claimed Quintana (got EloyCease), I am sure there is many more. Somebody had to develop them too and it wasn't the front office ill tell you that for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: Somebody had to develop them too and it wasn't the front office ill tell you that for free You have connections to the front office? I didn’t know that. ? Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: You have connections to the front office? I didn’t know that. ? Oh yeah for 10 bucks a month you can get ALL the inside info from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The guys that built one of the best teams in the American League? Exactly. Before they finished this rebuild, you could question this. But this front office gets A LOT more rope after making back to back playoffs, and being a leader for a third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: Somebody had to develop them too and it wasn't the front office ill tell you that for free How many front offices out there develop talent? I am going to go with zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: How many front offices out there develop talent? I am going to go with zero. no shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Exactly. Before they finished this rebuild, you could question this. But this front office gets A LOT more rope after making back to back playoffs, and being a leader for a third. they had to go through the rebuild because they couldn't find MLB talent. It's really not hard to understand my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: no shit So the front office hired the scouts who evaluated the talent, and took the advice of those guys to deal for them. They also hired the staff who did develop them. But the front office somehow doesn't deserve credit here? Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: they had to go through the rebuild because they couldn't find MLB talent. It's really not hard to understand my point They also benefited from the rebuild because they were able to find enough MLB talent to turn into a shortcut on the rebuild. Your point a canyon of a hole in the middle of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: You want me to run a list of trades and free agent signings for established MLB talent that have been made under the Williams/hahn regime? it wont be pretty Make that list along with that same list for the top 5 orgs that you do think are great at it. I'd love to see how they compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So the front office hired the scouts who evaluated the talent, and took the advice of those guys to deal for them. They also hired the staff who did develop them. But the front office somehow doesn't deserve credit here? Bizarre. "hired the staff that developed them" they can get credit for hiring the staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, SleepyWhiteSox said: Make that list along with that same list for the top 5 orgs that you do think are great at it. I'd love to see how they compare. Well I can name you three off the top of my head in the brewers, A's, and rays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They also benefited from the rebuild because they were able to find enough MLB talent to turn into a shortcut on the rebuild. Your point a canyon of a hole in the middle of it. no, they didn't "shortcut" the rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, SleepyWhiteSox said: Make that list along with that same list for the top 5 orgs that you do think are great at it. I'd love to see how they compare. The weird trick that obliterates 90% of unfair critiques on this board. "Interesting. And how does that compare to other MLB teams?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They also benefited from the rebuild because they were able to find enough MLB talent to turn into a shortcut on the rebuild. Your point a canyon of a hole in the middle of it. MLB talent Dallas keuchel? who makes top 10 starter money? Grandal (great signing) certainly didn't help us "shortcut" when we had James McCann. But keep carrying that water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: The weird trick that obliterates 90% of unfair critiques on this board. "Interesting. And how does that compare to other MLB teams?" I already named him three off the top of my head that are substantially better at doing it lmaoooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: no, they didn't "shortcut" the rebuild So correctly evaluating Adam Eaton, Jose Quintana, and Chris Sale for trades didn't help the rebuild at all? Especially when the sold at absolute peak value on Q and Eaton for sure, and probably sold peak value on Sale (pre-surgery and gigantic extension). That isn't MLB talent evaluation? Um, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, whitesoxwinner said: I already named him three off the top of my head that are substantially better at doing it lmaoooo That's not what he asked you to do lmaoooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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