maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: Well I can name you three off the top of my head in the brewers, A's, and rays Thank you NSC, I mean Hahn! Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: MLB talent Dallas keuchel? who makes top 10 starter money? Grandal (great signing) certainly didn't help us "shortcut" when we had James McCann. But keep carrying that water! Seems funny to forget that the previous year he was 5th in the Cy Young voting, but OK. Its also funny that you use James McCann as a detraction when the team plucked him from obscurity on a MiLB deal, got his best years out of him for extremely cheap, and walked away before he got a huge contract and absolutely cratered last year for the Mets. No MLB player evaluations going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So correctly evaluating Adam Eaton, Jose Quintana, and Chris Sale for trades didn't help the rebuild at all? Especially when the sold at absolute peak value on Q and Eaton for sure, and probably sold peak value on Sale (pre-surgery and gigantic extension). That isn't MLB talent evaluation? Um, sure. Never said that and im done debating someone who just clearly doesn't understand the point. Sale was MILB. Quintana was MILB. Are you gonna sit there and tell me that Williams and Hahn have been good at making moves for MLB talent? They have been bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: That's not what he asked you to do lmaoooooooooo are you ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, whitesoxwinner said: Never said that and im done debating someone who just clearly doesn't understand the point. Sale was MILB. Quintana was MILB. Are you gonna sit there and tell me that Williams and Hahn have been good at making moves for MLB talent? They have been bad You just said they can't evaluate MLB talent, yet you keep finding reasons to disqualify it when there are super clear examples pointed out to you. For some reason you also seem to think that evaluating your own talent isn't evaluating MLB talent, which is also not true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Seems funny to forget that the previous year he was 5th in the Cy Young voting, but OK. Its also funny that you use James McCann as a detraction when the team plucked him from obscurity on a MiLB deal, got his best years out of him for extremely cheap, and walked away before he got a huge contract and absolutely cratered last year for the Mets. No MLB player evaluations going on there. With terrible peripherals that saw his downfall coming...ill give them credit for getting lucky with James McCann sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: are you ok? are you ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: are you ok? You were the dude growing up that wanted to butt into any conversation so bad ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/03/gm-trade-history-rick-hahn.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: are you ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: You were the dude growing up that wanted to butt into any conversation so bad ? Hahahaha no but this one is entertaining. Keep going. Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: Hahahaha no but this one is entertaining. Keep going. you too then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/03/gm-trade-history-rick-hahn.html prior to trading valuable assets for relief pitching. An incredibly volatile position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: You want me to run a list of trades and free agent signings for established MLB talent that have been made under the Williams/hahn regime? it wont be pretty I was initially ready to disagree with this, but yeah, the list of flops does appear to be much longer than the successes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: you too then ? I’m just messing with you. I agree that list isn’t all that great except for Moncada, Kopech, Jimenez, Giolito, Grandal, etc. The rest is a little meh but you got to admit they built a good team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whitesoxwinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, maloney.adam said: I’m just messing with you. I agree that list isn’t all that great except for Moncada, Kopech, Jimenez, Giolito, Grandal, etc. The rest is a little meh but you got to admit they built a good team. All love and passion here from sox fans and they did. They couldve easily messed up the rebuilding trades and they didn't. They totally get the credit for the roster they've built and the staff they put in place to develop. Im highly worried they just wont be able to correctly supplement the current roster. They've only left a few holes after the rebuild as well I'll give them that. I don't want them to be fired I like Kenny and rick, they could just use more analytical employees for MLB evaluations. IIRC they are lacking in the sabremetrics department (probably because of the chairman). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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South Side Hit Men Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Solid piece by Keith Law discussing the misaligned incentives between the Angels and Noah Syndergaard. https://theathletic.com/2960809/2021/11/16/law-with-a-one-year-contract-noah-syndergaard-and-the-angels-arent-on-the-same-page/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hi8is Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: He must not be good at baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Astros? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Astros? Interesting. The Evil Ones. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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