hi8is Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: We need a rumor ASAP to save this thread! Welcome to Soxtalk! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah, I do think that was largely because of all the press they got in the offseason. Like you said, Sox fans don't turn out unless the winning is starting, and they certainly weren't winning anything that year, but they got a big boost of coverage that offseason that translated to a trickle of new fans. Balta nails it yet again. Just remember that Balta and I agree on most things Sox related. Maybe Balta just says his opinion in a more indirect, more acceptable way. Edited November 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah, I do think that was largely because of all the press they got in the offseason. Like you said, Sox fans don't turn out unless the winning is starting, and they certainly weren't winning anything that year, but they got a big boost of coverage that offseason that translated to a trickle of new fans. I guess I don't believe Sox fans are this dumb and gullible and their attendance history backs me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: I guess I don't believe Sox fans are this dumb and gullible and their attendance history backs me up. So why was there an increase in ticket sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I feel bad for people who couldn’t view soxtalk all day and see this thread had so many posts in it today, only to see the crap that’s been posted 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: So why was there an increase in ticket sales? They won 10 more games than the previous season and saw the debut Eloy. If you have proof the extra 40k was sold during the winter, I'd love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, fathom said: I feel bad for people who couldn’t view soxtalk all day and see this thread had so many posts in it today, only to see the crap that’s been posted Broke my thumb scrolling so fast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel Easily B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel Option B because Semien is getting around $200M, and Jerry wouldn't spend that much in dollars or years on Scherzer I also think you're light on the Conforto deal. Not only is option B the best one, it's also the only option that has a chance of actually happening. Edited November 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel B hands down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Easily B I could easily see something like that being our offseason with a few relievers mixed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Option B because Semien is getting around $200M, and Jerry wouldn't spend that much in dollars or years on Scherzer I also think you're light on the Conforto deal. Not only is option B the best one, it's also the only option that has a chance of actually happening. How is Semien getting $200M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel Option B but barely because of Bassit. My A scenario would be Lopez replacing DK as 5th starter with an upgrade at the trade deadline if needed. Anything less than Bassit as a SP and I'm going option A with Lopez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Option B because Semien is getting around $200M, and Jerry wouldn't spend that much in dollars or years on Scherzer I also think you're light on the Conforto deal. Not only is option B the best one, it's also the only option that has a chance of actually happening. Conforto went quickly from dumpster diving acquisition to more than 19 million a year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel B, though I'd prefer if they can avoid trading Jose Rodriguez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, fathom said: I feel bad for people who couldn’t view soxtalk all day and see this thread had so many posts in it today, only to see the crap that’s been posted Is this you volunteering to write a daily summary post on what’s happened in this thread? Thanks buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Rowand44 said: Is this you volunteering to write a daily summary post on what’s happened in this thread? Thanks buddy! Go watch Tiger King 2 instead of reading this thread....and Tiger King 2 is awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, fathom said: Conforto went quickly from dumpster diving acquisition to more than 19 million a year I never said that he was a dumpster diving acquisition. I did say he was the minimum to not be dumpster diving in RF. Edited November 19, 2021 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel So here’s how Steamer would directionally project our fWAR from the 2B, RF, & SP5 spots for each of these options: Option A = 7.5 wins Option B = 6.9 wins Option C = 8.2 wins I would have gone option B myself, but surprisingly it’s lowest for projected wins and requires the most prospect capital to execute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleedawg Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Quin said: B hands down. 29 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel Option C, but If we could get Kemp for just Adolfo, we should just do that now and hell just make the trade bigger and get Bassit too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Go watch Tiger King 2 instead of reading this thread....and Tiger King 2 is awful 13% RottenTomatoes, and that was only 3/5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 51 minutes ago, fathom said: I feel bad for people who couldn’t view soxtalk all day and see this thread had so many posts in it today, only to see the crap that’s been posted That’s me right now. Brb, have a couple more posts to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel I would be extremely happy with any of the three, but Option B would make me the happiest. Does anyone know the last time we had an all RH starting staff? Anyone know of recent success stories in MLB? I have no concerns with any of those pitchers doing well individually, but wondering if being all RH is known to have a negative effect on the staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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