hi8is Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Matz to the Cards @ 4/44 - hummm interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, hi8is said: Matz to the Cards @ 4/44 - hummm interesting. Wow, he blew MLBTR’s 3/$27M projection out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: I am thinking they will get Matz and than Scherzer and if not Scherzer will try for Rodon and others. I expect them to land 3 big name free agent starting pitchers. They will need to replace Matz on the wishlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Wow, he blew MLBTR’s 3/$27M projection out of the water. It seems to me that anyone who has signed early is getting more then expected. Verlander, Graveman, Matz , Loup, DeSclafani and Syndergaard all higher than Fangraphs estimates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It seems to me that anyone who has signed early is getting more then expected. Verlander, Graveman, Matz , Loup, DeSclafani and Syndergaard all higher than Fangraphs estimates. Rodon now becomes the pitching mystery to watch of the offseason, along with Scherzer, Gausman and Kershaw…and, of course, the Kimbrel trade. Edited November 24, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It seems to me that anyone who has signed early is getting more then expected. Verlander, Graveman, Matz , Loup, DeSclafani and Syndergaard all higher than Fangraphs estimates. This is mostly true on the MLBTR side of things, although DeSclafani & Graveman in below expectations in terms of AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Say what you will about Jerry, but the fact he doesn’t tweet is >>>>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Cohen is pretty douchey. Edited November 24, 2021 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 @bmags - Who is he talking about by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Nevermind: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, bmags said: Say what you will about Jerry, but the fact he doesn’t tweet is >>>>> I'm still amazed people thought this guy would be a good owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nevermind: I know folks like to fall back on the "biggest offer wins", but what if this is one of those situations where Matz saw what St. Louis offered as an organization (chance at winning, clubhouse identity, etc) and decided "you know what, I've seen enough of the Mets and want to move on, so a matching or close offer isn't worth discussing." Cohen may feel jilted, but could be Matz wasn't going to seriously consider coming back after seeing what else was out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Cohen is pretty douchey. This is like saying Ted Bundy was kind of a bad guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Pretty funny the Mets have now been blown off by 2 ex players. Not a great look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Maybe instead of relying on matching you make him the offer that gets him to stay? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Cohen is pretty douchey. He's way beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, bmags said: Maybe instead of relying on matching you make him the offer that gets him to stay? Exactly. The Mets aren’t some small market team and they weren’t the incumbent. They did not deserve a right to match and shouldn’t have banked on one if they really wanted Matz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Edited November 24, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Man Cohen is still blabbing to every baseball writer who will listen. Shut the hell up. The nice info is it seems by merely flattering Cohen telling him Matz wanted to stay with NYM, it coaxed an offer out of him when they were otherwise not in pursuit. Nice playbook for other agents. "Hi Steve, my player really just wants to play with the mets. He loves your aggressive style, he thinks you are a visionary, you are our plan A and B. What do you say?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He's way beyond that. Unfamiliar with him… what’s the scoop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, hi8is said: Unfamiliar with him… what’s the scoop? The dirtiest of dirty on wall street which is saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The dirtiest of dirty on wall street which is saying something. Deep rot. Edited November 24, 2021 by hi8is Down for the Mets and Yankmes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Rodon now becomes the pitching mystery to watch of the offseason, along with Scherzer, Gausman and Kershaw…and, of course, the Kimbrel trade. I've thought all along that Rodon is the starting pitcher most likely to end up on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I've thought all along that Rodon is the starting pitcher most likely to end up on the Sox. I hope you’re right and we also add another SP via trade while later dumping Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I've thought all along that Rodon is the starting pitcher most likely to end up on the Cubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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