Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Watcha got $7M in his deal. I feel like Keuchel should be movable at $11M or so, which means eating $7M or $8M or taking a bad contract of similar value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Haven’t heard any S.Suzuki mentions for awhile…if he doesn’t sign with a West Coast team, anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I've been following this thread all off-season. Thanks to everyone for their work here- its much appreciated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, rockren said: I've been following this thread all off-season. Thanks to everyone for their work here- its much appreciated. I try. Welcome to Soxtalk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 If a guy like Neris got 2 years and $17 million, the Sox shouldn't have many issues getting rid of Kimbrel's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, chw42 said: If a guy like Neris got 2 years and $17 million, the Sox shouldn't have many issues getting rid of Kimbrel's contract. You would think. But those deals seem a lot easier for GM’s to justify…compared to closers making $16 million. Someone will likely give Tepera a similar deal and nobody will remember him ten years from now. Let’s think of it as the White Sox equivalent of Dotel and Linebrink. But everyone remembers Billy Koch, for example. GM’s take a lot more heat over that than fanbases going after general bullpen spending. Think the Mets and Edwin Diaz, or Wade Davis after leaving KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Come on White Sox… let’s see it! Don’t you know I’m desperately in need of some moves to solidify my clearly lacking sense of confidence? My overbearing insecurity is showing through and the only thing which will provide a semblance of balance are baseball transactions related to Chicago’s best team. I’m already horribly afraid that I’ll even make it through a labor negotiation strike without losing my mind completely… Give me some hope, for fucks sake. It is plain as day that me and my feelings are more important than anything else and my entitlement is unmatched. So there! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: But everyone remembers Billy Koch, for example. GM’s take a lot more heat over that than fanbases going after general bullpen spending. Think the Mets and Edwin Diaz, or Wade Davis after leaving KC. But that's also because the Sox traded one of the best closers in baseball for Koch. Under any level of analysis, Foulke was the superior pitcher. Koch threw hard; Foulke didn't - I guess that was it. But Williams finally got the pitching squared away and got the ring. Edited November 28, 2021 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rockren Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, GreenSox said: But that's also because the Sox traded one of the best closers in baseball for Koch. Under any level of analysis, Foulke was the superior pitcher. Koch threw hard; Foulke didn't - I guess that was it. But Williams finally got the pitching squared away and got the ring. Koch was on roids; Foulke wasn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Edited November 28, 2021 by CWSpalehoseCWS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, GreenSox said: But that's also because the Sox traded one of the best closers in baseball for Koch. Under any level of analysis, Foulke was the superior pitcher. Koch threw hard; Foulke didn't - I guess that was it. But Williams finally got the pitching squared away and got the ring. One of my least favorite trades ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, GreenSox said: But that's also because the Sox traded one of the best closers in baseball for Koch. Under any level of analysis, Foulke was the superior pitcher. Koch threw hard; Foulke didn't - I guess that was it. But Williams finally got the pitching squared away and got the ring. Nope. Foulke wanted more money, something like $ 6 Million, or whatever. So they made the trade to save a few bucks, and then they gave Koch a raise to match Foulke. Foulke stayed successful and Kock didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Adam Frazier moved for a couple useful spare parts. Would have been a great high-floor get just like Escobar. Confusing start to what promises to be a very strange off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, oldsox said: Foulke Is this pronounced: Foul-Key or Foo-Ulk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Foal-k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, hi8is said: Come on White Sox… let’s see it! Don’t you know I’m desperately in need of some moves to solidify my clearly lacking sense of confidence? My overbearing insecurity is showing through and the only thing which will provide a semblance of balance are baseball transactions related to Chicago’s best team. I’m already horribly afraid that I’ll even make it through a labor negotiation strike without losing my mind completely… Give me some hope, for fucks sake. It is plain as day that me and my feelings are more important than anything else and my entitlement is unmatched. So there! That was a downright skillful use of the English language and quite humble while feigning arrogance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Another RP off the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 37 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: There’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Foal-k Foal-Kah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: That was a downright skillful use of the English language and quite humble while feigning arrogance. My big words calculator is broken… no compute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: My big words calculator is broken… no compute. Must have broken it using "entitlement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Must have broken it using "entitlement." I’m still trying to figure out how to pronounce Foulke. Fay-ull-kahge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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