maloney.adam Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: There will literally be no one left to sign It’s frustrating to say the least but I’m staying quiet about it. Edited November 29, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: I still don't see how starting pitching is our biggest weakness. 2B by far is the biggest issue and RF right behind it (although if I have to live with Vaughn there then so be it). Since we have a cheap owner, that's where we need to concentrate in using whatever "limited" resources these clowns have. Pitching wins in the playoffs. Lynn’s health doesn’t look so great heading into a rushed extension, and Ray and Gausman are solid playoff starters. Giolito Ray Kopech and Lynn/Cease + Vaughn/Sheets/Deadline RF is far more formidable in the playoffs than a team without Ray but with Conforto. In terms of 2B, the remaining FA options are mediocre at best, there is nothing to prioritize. They also need to fight off Pittsburgh and Detroit for Leury Garcia’s services, or settle for 120 games of Yolmer Sanchez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 If the Cult of LaRussa can't get Jerry to spend, it isn't going to be spent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The reality is Hahn said the upcoming CBA would not impact things for the Sox and it would be business as usual. My gut tells me the budget is probably closer to $180M and that means we only have room to one large signing unfortunately. Sucks if true, but I really don’t think Hahn would like about his ability to make moves right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: If the Cult of LaRussa can't get Jerry to spend, it isn't going to be spent. Remember the idea that the purse strings were going to fly open because JR was ready to win and get TLR another WS to make up for firing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, southsideirish71 said: Remember the idea that the purse strings were going to fly open because JR was ready to win and get TLR another WS to make up for firing him. It seems like it is turning out that my worst fear of Tony was that he was in lieu of spending seems to be coming true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The reality is Hahn said the upcoming CBA would not impact things for the Sox and it would be business as usual. My gut tells me the budget is probably closer to $180M and that means we only have room to one large signing unfortunately. Sucks if true, but I really don’t think Hahn would like about his ability to make moves right now. We already signed Graveman and that’s it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The reality is Hahn said the upcoming CBA would not impact things for the Sox and it would be business as usual. My gut tells me the budget is probably closer to $180M and that means we only have room to one large signing unfortunately. Sucks if true, but I really don’t think Hahn would like about his ability to make moves right now. You are probably right. Keuchel has really hamstrung us too. Geriatric Jerry needs to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCalChiSox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: We already signed Graveman and that’s it? No I think he means one more big signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, maloney.adam said: We already signed Graveman and that’s it? Probably Kimbrel for Segura and that's the major move of the offseason. Vaughn/Sheets/Engel in RF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Of the players who signed, who does everyone think the Sox were going to sign at the price they signed? Scherzer, no way. Semien....maybe but 7/175 is a lot to give a 2B who is 31 years old, and I've been told 2B are easy to find. Gray? Who cares. Does anyone really trust Rpbbie Ray for 5 years? There are still more realistic targets out there, but I'm not going to freak out JR didn't go Steve Cohen on Max. That is just nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: We already signed Graveman and that’s it? Graveman is not a major signing in the context I’m speaking. I’m just saying we can probably only afford one Conforto sized deal and then have clear salary or sign lesser free agents to fill remaining holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The reality is Hahn said the upcoming CBA would not impact things for the Sox and it would be business as usual. My gut tells me the budget is probably closer to $180M and that means we only have room to one large signing unfortunately. Sucks if true, but I really don’t think Hahn would like about his ability to make moves right now. The reality is, giving this team the benefit of the doubt on spending money or operating as they should operate is laughable and that much is confirmed every single off-season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 It's possible they completely misread Kimbrel's market, and that is hamstringing the team. That would be a monumental mistake, but it's possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The reality is, giving this team the benefit of the doubt on spending money or operating as they should operate is laughable and that much is confirmed every single off-season. Preach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Starting to prep my Drew Smyly material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, bmags said: Starting to prep my Drew Smyly material Not a bad dumpster dive tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: No I think he means one more big signing. Exactly, and Hahn basically said this at his end of season press conference. It seems painfully obvious to me the plan is Conforto, Kimbre for Segura & Marchan, and trade for Bassitt or A’s / Red’s pitcher. That can work financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The reality is Hahn said the upcoming CBA would not impact things for the Sox and it would be business as usual. My gut tells me the budget is probably closer to $180M and that means we only have room to one large signing unfortunately. Sucks if true, but I really don’t think Hahn would like about his ability to make moves right now. Watching Ray and Gausman go elsewhere on reasonable deals has me thinking that the only "big" FA signing will be RF, be it Conforto, Joc, or a dumpster dive. Pitching and 2B will be addressed via trade. And we can probably kiss Vaughn goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The reality is, giving this team the benefit of the doubt on spending money or operating as they should operate is laughable and that much is confirmed every single off-season. Who is giving them the benefit of the doubt? We should spend like a legit major market franchise and I’ve routinely called Jerry out for refusing to spend money to make money. I just speculating what’s likely given current ownership and the budget they’ve likely set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I know nobody should care about this right now, but the amount of pitching the Sox have after 2023 is scary unless Kopech/Cease take another step forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Exactly, and Hahn basically said this at his end of season press conference. It seems painfully obvious to me the plan is Conforto, Kimbre for Segura & Marchan, and trade for Bassitt or A’s / Red’s pitcher. That can work financially. This really is looking like our best case scenario at this juncture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, ron883 said: It's possible they completely misread Kimbrel's market, and that is hamstringing the team. That would be a monumental mistake, but it's possible. It’s possible, but I doubt Harold would be ripping them for that since he seemed confident Kimbrel could be moved. Maybe he’s implying they thought Scherzer or Semien would go for a lot less than what they got? The only other free agents we missed on were Gausman and Ray and those deals were super reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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