fathom Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What did they say? Lynn regretted not mixing it up more, according to Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, ron883 said: The guy is a completely different pitcher now than he used to be. Those stats don't mean dick. His 12 era today would disagree 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I think Lynn is fine. This was a carbon copy of his outing in Houston in June, we had him being beaten badly in Houston if they got home field advantage pegged months ago as the likely result, well before his IL stint. It is a non zero chance that thing is still sore and he is toughing it out. A lot of times you hear about these guys being fine, but also hear later about them getting a minor procedure done after the season is over. Edited October 8, 2021 by Chick Mercedes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Lynn regretted not mixing it up more, according to Tony Dumb af. He a fastball pitcher, they are a fastball hitting team. They own him. Doesn’t take rocket science, he couldn’t “mix in” a curveball or change up he just added a month or two ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Lynn regretted not mixing it up more, according to Tony Great, so now if he has to pitch again in this series he doubts his normal game plan. Good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Lynn regretted not mixing it up more, according to Tony Unless his sequencing issues were him trying to throw balls and fall behind I'm not sure it means much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: Dumb af. He a fastball pitcher, they are a fastball hitting team. They own him. Doesn’t take rocket science, he couldn’t “mix in” a curveball or change up he just added a month or two ago. You can’t ask a guy to be something he isn’t all of a sudden in the playoffs. A few more breaking balls wasn’t going to change this performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 It will be interesting to see what they do this offseason if they lose the next two games. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: It will be interesting to see what they do this offseason if they lose the next two games. Any thoughts? I’m not ready to think about that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Great, so now if he has to pitch again in this series he doubts his normal game plan. Good work! His game plan hasn't worked vs. Houston for years. I hope he does doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Great, so now if he has to pitch again in this series he doubts his normal game plan. Good work! He’s not right. Don’t even matter at this point what it is. Confidence he will straighten himself out in the post season has to be low. Not saying I wouldn’t pitch him again in the series. But I’m going with my young heathy mentally clear studs from here on out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: His game plan hasn't worked vs. Houston for years. I hope he does doubt it No, it hasn’t worked IN Houston. He has been solid against them when pitching at home. 2-1 with an ERA in the low 3s against them at home, now 3-7 with an ERA approaching 6 in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: It will be interesting to see what they do this offseason if they lose the next two games. Any thoughts? Well if we get swept it clearly means we're just not talented enough to compete with the elite teams. I know that's hard to believe considering we were 2nd in baseball in fWAR this year, but we also ended up playing lots of games against a very bad AL Central and we beat the shit out of the Orioles, Cubs, and Rangers. We'll see how the rest of the series plays out, but we have some pretty obvious holes in this lineup and some of our core players aren't living up to their potential (Eloy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: It will be interesting to see what they do this offseason if they lose the next two games. Any thoughts? Add, or trade for defense, speed and baserunning. By any means necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: It will be interesting to see what they do this offseason if they lose the next two games. Any thoughts? One of Eloy, Yoan, or Vaughn will be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, ShoeLessRob said: One of Eloy, Yoan, or Vaughn will be traded. Why Yoan? This team needs defense and lefty bats, and he does well with both. But yes I would absolutely dangle Eloy and Vaughn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, ron883 said: He brought his damn dog to watch the game too? You don't mess with ritual this much. Make him leave the dog at home next time. Just the dog or did he also bring a dessert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Why Yoan? This team needs defense and lefty bats, and he does well with both. But yes I would absolutely dangle Eloy and Vaughn Just throwing some shit out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Cora just pulled Rodriguez after 1.2 innings. Really makes you wonder why La Russa let Lynn pitch to Brantley. Lynn had given up hard contact that entire inning. That was basically the inning that broke the camel's back. Had we gotten out of it without any runs, it might have been a different game. We were close to putting up 3-4 runs in the last few innings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Somebody messed with Jobu's Rum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, fathom said: Lynn regretted not mixing it up more, according to Tony Lynn called bullshit on Tony's assessment. Baseball Savant's assessment. Pitches Swings Pitch Velocity Exit Velocity Pitch Type Count % Swings Whiffs % CS CS+Whiffs CSW% Fouls BIP Max Min Avg Yr-Avg +/- Avg Min Max 4-Seam Fastball 30 39 16 5 31 4 9 30 5 6 97.5 91.9 94.8 94 0.8 ↑ 98.7 79.7 105.4 Cutter 25 33 13 2 15 2 4 16 6 5 92.6 85.8 88.6 88.7 -0.1 ↓ 79.1 33.5 109.1 Sinker 19 25 9 0 0 2 2 11 6 3 95.2 90.1 93.4 92.4 1.0 ↑ 97.5 82.6 106.9 Curveball 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 85.2 85.2 85.2 82.2 3.0 ↑ Changeup 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 94.5 94.5 94.5 87.4 7.1 ↑ 76 38 7 18 8 15 20 17 14 97.5 85.2 92.3 91.5 33.5 109.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Lynn called bullshit on Tony's assessment. Baseball Savant's assessment. Pitches Swings Pitch Velocity Exit Velocity Pitch Type Count % Swings Whiffs % CS CS+Whiffs CSW% Fouls BIP Max Min Avg Yr-Avg +/- Avg Min Max 4-Seam Fastball 30 39 16 5 31 4 9 30 5 6 97.5 91.9 94.8 94 0.8 ↑ 98.7 79.7 105.4 Cutter 25 33 13 2 15 2 4 16 6 5 92.6 85.8 88.6 88.7 -0.1 ↓ 79.1 33.5 109.1 Sinker 19 25 9 0 0 2 2 11 6 3 95.2 90.1 93.4 92.4 1.0 ↑ 97.5 82.6 106.9 Curveball 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 85.2 85.2 85.2 82.2 3.0 ↑ Changeup 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 94.5 94.5 94.5 87.4 7.1 ↑ 76 38 7 18 8 15 20 17 14 97.5 85.2 92.3 91.5 33.5 109.1 The teams falling a part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, fathom said: Why Yoan? This team needs defense and lefty bats, and he does well with both. But yes I would absolutely dangle Eloy and Vaughn Too early to give up on any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, chw42 said: Cora just pulled Rodriguez after 1.2 innings. Really makes you wonder why La Russa let Lynn pitch to Brantley. Lynn had given up hard contact that entire inning. That was basically the inning that broke the camel's back. Had we gotten out of it without any runs, it might have been a different game. We were close to putting up 3-4 runs in the last few innings. Kopech is only gonna be used when the starter is getting absolutely bombed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Chick Mercedes said: Kopech is only gonna be used when the starter is getting absolutely bombed? I would rather have used Crochet in the spot against Brantley. Instead we used him a few innings later when it was a 6 run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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