Texsox Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:38 PM, RibbieRubarb said: I can always count on Soxtalk acting like a good White Sox team is actually a 100 loss team. And all wins were based on luck and departed players. I loved the progress they made, the "next man up" attitude to overcome injuries that would have devastated a lesser team, and the emergence of some elite young hitters and pitchers. But, so many here will bask in the glow of their "I told ya so's" and pretend to be fans while rooting for negative outcomes. I guess congrats are in order for you. 2020...Wild Card. 2021...Division. Next step...League Champ. Keep moving forward. Expand Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:09 PM, Tnetennba said: Expecting him to actually listen to their input when it goes against his old school ways is wishful thinking. Expand Absent evidence that that input actually happened I'm not going to assume it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:37 PM, soulfly said: Are you saying you are Rick Hahn? Expand Shhhh, just watch the game. This Kimbrel guy is fantastic and was 100% the correct move to be made at the deadline. Process over Performance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:37 PM, chw42 said: I mean game 2 alone was probably lost due to shitty managing, so I don't think that's too much of a reach. Expand Shitty managing yes but they gave up 9 runs. Not like it was a 5-4 loss. Pitching staff has given up 27 runs in 4 games. You can't win that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:39 PM, SoxAce said: Hahn was another problem as well. His deadline acquisitions minus Tepera have all not panned out. How you can not get an impact bat for this team is baffling to me. Expand This is fair as well. He attempted to upgrade the team at the deadline and failed, pretty badly infact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:39 PM, SoxAce said: Hahn was another problem as well. His deadline acquisitions minus Tepera have all not panned out. How you can not get a bat for this team is baffling to me. Expand Of course he was an issue. He should be embarrassed about the last few months, including the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:39 PM, SoxAce said: Hahn was another problem as well. His deadline acquisitions minus Tepera have all not panned out. How you can not get an impact bat for this team is baffling to me. Expand The FO was basically banking on Robert and Eloy. Robert exceeded expectations, but Eloy took a massive step back. Still, that doesn't negate the massive hole we had in RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:37 PM, chw42 said: I mean game 2 alone was probably lost due to shitty managing, so I don't think that's too much of a reach. Expand Yup. Then throw in "recognizing Lynn's splits in Houston" as another place where the White Sox failed to use leverage, and the White Sox should have taken at least 1 game in Houston and coaching gave that away. Today - I really would like to know how this would have gone had they gotten Tepera up (or Lynn), rather than Kopech, and went to Tepera against Correa when it was clear Rodon had given all he had. No guarantees, but this could have been a different game too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:39 PM, BigHurt3515 said: I think the rainout really zapped the momentum Expand Is that what we are calling a TLR night at the bar now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:34 PM, ChiSox59 said: If the Sox fired TLR, I’d love It. But I think we’re talking about like 5% chance. More likely he decides the grind isn’t for him anymore And he gracefully steps Away. Even if Sox wanted him gone, that’s how he’d go. Expand Make TLR manager emeritus. Doesn’t travel with the team. Sits/naps on the bench, and lets the bench coach manage the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:40 PM, almagest said: Shitty managing yes but they gave up 9 runs. Not like it was a 5-4 loss. Pitching staff has given up 27 runs in 4 games. You can't win that way. Expand Shitty managing is what made it from a 5-4 game into a 9-4 blow out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:41 PM, chw42 said: The FO was basically banking on Robert and Eloy. Robert exceeded expectations, but Eloy took a massive step back. Still, that doesn't negate the massive hole we had in RF. Expand And banked on Engel way too much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:36 PM, Balta1701 said: I am fully convinced that with a better manager this is a 5 game series and I don't know who wins game 5. Expand Their offense has been dead in the 2 and what looks like 3rd game they've lost. How do you blame TLR for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:38 PM, Tony said: Again, I don't want to be lectured by you. You've spent years spewing absolute drunken nonsense on this board and we've all put up with it. So I don't want to hear from you about post quality. Expand Then don’t start shit with me or anyone else, as a mod - your supposed to be better than that. And still, you keep up the personal attacks - this time towards someone who hasn’t had a drop of alcohol in years. You brought attention to yourself Tony - so you’re getting it. Be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:41 PM, Balta1701 said: Yup. Then throw in "recognizing Lynn's splits in Houston" as another place where the White Sox failed to use leverage, and the White Sox should have taken at least 1 game in Houston and coaching gave that away. Today - I really would like to know how this would have gone had they gotten Tepera up (or Lynn), rather than Kopech, and went to Tepera against Correa when it was clear Rodon had given all he had. No guarantees, but this could have been a different game too. Expand So would I....so would I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:41 PM, chw42 said: Shitty managing is what made it from a 5-4 game into a 9-4 blow out. Expand Shitty managing took it from a 4-2 game with the White Sox having a 71% chance of winning to a 5-4 game. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:42 PM, fathom said: And banked on Engel way too much Expand It's still crazy to me that Engel played less games than Eloy this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:38 PM, RibbieRubarb said: I can always count on Soxtalk acting like a good White Sox team is actually a 100 loss team. And all wins were based on luck and departed players. I loved the progress they made, the "next man up" attitude to overcome injuries that would have devastated a lesser team, and the emergence of some elite young hitters and pitchers. But, so many here will bask in the glow of their "I told ya so's" and pretend to be fans while rooting for negative outcomes. I guess congrats are in order for you. 2020...Wild Card. 2021...Division. Next step...League Champ. Keep moving forward. Expand I like this. Next year is the start of the world series contention window. It's the revenge tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:38 PM, RibbieRubarb said: I can always count on Soxtalk acting like a good White Sox team is actually a 100 loss team. And all wins were based on luck and departed players. I loved the progress they made, the "next man up" attitude to overcome injuries that would have devastated a lesser team, and the emergence of some elite young hitters and pitchers. But, so many here will bask in the glow of their "I told ya so's" and pretend to be fans while rooting for negative outcomes. I guess congrats are in order for you. 2020...Wild Card. 2021...Division. Next step...League Champ. Keep moving forward. Expand This team did great this year. It's infuriating because they could have been better with what they have. Balta has his running list of real obvious blunders by TLR. The team coasted in the second half. BUT, TLR was here for October. That was all we were told about. It's why we didn't hire Hinch (who did a great job with Detroit) or go after Bochy. And he's gotten his ass whooped by Dusty Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Grandal calls for way too many fastballs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:41 PM, Balta1701 said: Yup. Then throw in "recognizing Lynn's splits in Houston" as another place where the White Sox failed to use leverage, and the White Sox should have taken at least 1 game in Houston and coaching gave that away. Today - I really would like to know how this would have gone had they gotten Tepera up (or Lynn), rather than Kopech, and went to Tepera against Correa when it was clear Rodon had given all he had. No guarantees, but this could have been a different game too. Expand For sure it would have been a different game. Needed to go with the veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 The Sox will be better next year tha this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:42 PM, JuliusO1274 said: Their offense has been dead in the 2 and what looks like 3rd game they've lost. How do you blame TLR for that? Expand So you're saying that they are unmotivated and unfocused? Hmmmm, seems like some coaching staff issues. You can definitely hang 2b and RF on the front office, I'm ok with that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:43 PM, Quin said: This team did great this year. It's infuriating because they could have been better with what they have. Balta has his running list of real obvious blunders by TLR. The team coasted in the second half. BUT, TLR was here for October. That was all we were told about. It's why we didn't hire Hinch (who did a great job with Detroit) or go after Bochy. And he's gotten his ass whooped by Dusty Baker. Expand To be fair, Dusty may have single handedly given the White Sox game 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Embarrassing play today. Timmy has been so bad defensively of late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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