South Side Hit Men Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Please no more Goodwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackowiakYakYak Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 No way Goodwin gets any guaranteed money. He’s set for a minor league tryout next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Cordero is still with the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Leonard Zelig said: Cordero is still with the Sox? Yes, 60 day DL after Tommy John surgery. https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/injuries/_/name/chw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Goodwin should be non-tendered. Unless Fry has an option year left, he should also be non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Goodwin should be non-tendered. Unless Fry has an option year left, he should also be non-tendered. I think Engel and Marshall are the tougher decisions on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackowiakYakYak Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I think Engel and Marshall are the tougher decisions on this list. I don’t think Engel is a very tough decision. He’s at the very least established himself to be at least a good 4th outfielder with his great defense and base running. The last two seasons he’s shown that he could possibly throw together a 2 or 3 war season. Letting him go because we twice rushed him back from leg injuries would be asinine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I think Engel and Marshall are the tougher decisions on this list. For a $2.2M on Engel? Easy tender. Marshall is a coin flip, probably. But I think they'll tender him. Goodwin is a goner. ReyLo has earned a spot, crazy enough. He was a no brainer non-tender a couple months ago. Good on him. Excited to get Jimmy back. I am a fan. 1 hour ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Goodwin should be non-tendered. Unless Fry has an option year left, he should also be non-tendered. Fry still has an option. They'll keep him around for $1Mish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: For a $2.2M on Engel? Easy tender. Even if they don't think Engel fits into their 2022 plans (though I think he should), he has decent trade value at that salary. He could start in CF for several teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I still wouldn't mind Engel in a platoon with Joc Pederson next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, Superstar Lamar said: I still wouldn't mind Engel in a platoon with Joc Pederson next year Sox need to aim much higher. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Superstar Lamar said: I still wouldn't mind Engel in a platoon with Joc Pederson next year I hope they aren't banking on Engel playing regularly again next season. Sox need a legit every day RF with power, preferably from the left side. Let Engel sub defensively and start only to give guys a breather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: I hope they aren't banking on Engel playing regularly again next season. Sox need a legit every day RF with power, preferably from the left side. Let Engel sub defensively and start only to give guys a breather. The ideal person to get has good power vs righties AND hits lefties well enough to play every day, but if the best lefty power guy they can get has severe platoon splits, then platooning with Engel is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Sox need to aim much higher. Yes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, Superstar Lamar said: I still wouldn't mind Engel in a platoon with Joc Pederson next year lol then we're in the same situation as we were last off-season. That said, Joc turns it up for October and that's something this club really needs from a veteran bat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I'm fine with a platoon hole in RF if we open up the bank for a middle IF. Of course it seems we're unlikely to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackowiakYakYak Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I'm fine with a platoon hole in RF if we open up the bank for a middle IF. Of course it seems we're unlikely to do that. But it needs to be a true platoon player and not a generic lefty bat. We need someone of Tampa’s platoon mold. Give me a guy with an 800+ OPS against righties and a sub-600 OPS lefties instead of someone that’s sitting at 750 for both. edit: ironically this is Brian Godwin’s profile. He had a wRC+ of 125, OPS 811 against righties and was absolutely useless against lefties Edited October 12, 2021 by MackowiakYakYak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Marshall & Goodwin will be non-tendered. I bet Cordero comes back for like $800-900k. The Sox will nontender him to sign him to a new deal if they have to. Everyone else gets tendered at those numbers and it's possible 1-2 of Fry/Lopez/Engel will go in trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I'm fine with a platoon hole in RF if we open up the bank for a middle IF. Of course it seems we're unlikely to do that. We're nowhere near the luxury tax and the AL Central is only going to get tougher going forward. There's zero excuse to head into 2022 ST with an obvious hole anywhere on the roster. But yeah I agree with you that they are unlikely to spend big on anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YourWhatHurts said: There's zero excuse to head into 2022 ST with an obvious hole anywhere on the roster. But yeah I agree with you that they are unlikely to spend big on anyone. Don’t those two concepts seem to be in opposition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Tnetennba said: I hope they aren't banking on Engel playing regularly again next season. Sox need a legit every day RF with power, preferably from the left side. Let Engel sub defensively and start only to give guys a breather. I don't think they were banking on him playing regularly this season either but Eloy and Robert then got injured. I think that as a platoon player Engel is more than adequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, YourWhatHurts said: We're nowhere near the luxury tax and the AL Central is only going to get tougher going forward. There's zero excuse to head into 2022 ST with an obvious hole anywhere on the roster. But yeah I agree with you that they are unlikely to spend big on anyone. The current luxury tax, which will be rewritten this offseason likely after a lockout. We know ownership has already proposed a $30 million drop in that tax line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, Chimpton said: I don't think they were banking on him playing regularly this season either but Eloy and Robert then got injured. I think that as a platoon player Engel is more than adequate. He was thought of as a primary backup of, which was a fine role for him on paper. The problems - first, the White Sox mistook Adam Eaton for a guy who still had baseball left in him and paid him $8 million, and then Engel got hurt and the White Sox repeatedly tried rushing him back from the injury, making it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Wouldn't expect Engel back at that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) The Sox need to aim higher this offseason. Enough of the experiments in RF. They need to sign a legitimate everyday RF that can hit for power. Edited October 12, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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