maloney.adam Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, FLsoxfan said: Pipe Dream I know but I would do the following: Pick up Kimbrel option; hope with a full season of 8th inning his results improve Package Crochet, Burger and Keuchel for Conforto Offer Rodon QO to recover a draft pick Kopech to the rotation Vaughn/Abreu split 1B/DH Romy takes Leury's spot at utility Sign Chris Taylor 3/45 for 2b Sign Scherzer 3/112 the playoffs have shown us this team needs an ace. Resign Tepera 2/18 Conforto is a free agent this offseason. Edited October 13, 2021 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, FLsoxfan said: Pipe Dream I know but I would do the following: Pick up Kimbrel option; hope with a full season of 8th inning his results improve Package Crochet, Burger and Keuchel for Conforto Offer Rodon QO to recover a draft pick Kopech to the rotation Vaughn/Abreu split 1B/DH Romy takes Leury's spot at utility Sign Chris Taylor 3/45 for 2b Sign Scherzer 3/112 the playoffs have shown us this team needs an ace. Resign Tepera 2/18 Conforto is a FA. You get to keep Crochet and Burger and just spend $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Decline Kimbrel Decline Hernandez Sign Marte Sign Escobar Re-sign Tepera Sign one more BP arm QO to Rodon, which he likely declines. Tough to say what do with the rotation past Gio, Lynn, and Cease. Probably throw a one year contract old guy into the mix and hope for the best out of meh. Not sure what else to do unless you are comfortable trading away some nice young pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLsoxfan Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Conforto is a FA. You get to keep Crochet and Burger and just spend $. just checked that and edited, I think packaging Crochet with Keuchel to clear the salary and acquire a RF is a move they should look into though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Too many redundant players. They have some tough decisions to make. Isn’t it really Eloy and Vaughn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Unless they make some bold moves before then. The team is going to be handcuffed a bit with money, but a few creative moves could free up some cash and allow them to make a splash. If they end up with a true RF and another solid SP (and maybe a good 2B) by then, SoxFest could be a better time for Hahn. Watch it now, you might make me excited about the free agent season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, fathom said: Isn’t it really Eloy and Vaughn I don't think you can trade either of those guys coming off 21. They should rotate LF/DH (I'd play Vaughn in LF the majority of the time, personally). Sprinkle Vaughn in at 1B some. Would be selling low on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Isn’t it really Eloy and Vaughn and Abreu, Grandal, Sheets, Berger. They all need time at 1B or DH because they can't be an everyday player at another position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, GREEDY said: Lots of talk of trading Vaughn and Sheets. I'd hate to sell low but I'd definitely sell high on either. I'm sure they shopped Vaughn a bit so they know where his value was before his slump this year. One of them is the starting 1B next year for me. Abreu is poor defensively and only getting older. Him not executing a routine scoop of on Tim's error was the nail in the coffin yesterday. Error goes to TA but there are random high school first basemen scooping that 9 out of 10 times. He is going to have to get used to spending at least some time at DH. Yaz also needs about 150 PA at DH as well in 2022. Eloy could use 100 too. Can't have 5 guys at DH, so if either is tradable, I think you do it. I am not the biggest Abreu fan out there but he is definitely not "poor defensively". On another Abreu subject...I would like him moved down in the batting order FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Eloy Jimenez could be this year's Carlos Lee. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: and Abreu, Grandal, Sheets, Berger. They all need time at 1B or DH because they can't be an everyday player at another position. Agreed, I don’t know how they would be able to accomplish that when they can’t be an everyday starter at another position. One or two may have to be moved. Edited October 13, 2021 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, FLsoxfan said: just checked that and edited, I think packaging Crochet with Keuchel to clear the salary and acquire a RF is a move they should look into though. If the CBA adds a salary floor, this could readily happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, FLsoxfan said: just checked that and edited, I think packaging Crochet with Keuchel to clear the salary and acquire a RF is a move they should look into though. 1. I don't think Keuchel is movable at this point 2. I HATE the idea of killing the value of Crochet on the market by anchoring him with Keuchel. It's just money. You want to win that badly...spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, Balta1701 said: If the CBA adds a salary floor, this could readily happen. That's the only way Keuchle becomes movable, but without looking at the entire league, I'm sure there is an abundance of bad contracts that could be moved by teams, Keuchle isn't that unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RibbieRubarb said: Eloy Jimenez could be this year's Carlos Lee. Discuss. A key part of that Lee deal was that moving his salary cleared them to sign Iguchi and Pierzynski. How does that work here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, FLsoxfan said: Pipe Dream I know but I would do the following: Pick up Kimbrel option; hope with a full season of 8th inning his results improve Package Crochet, Burger and Keuchel for Conforto Offer Rodon QO to recover a draft pick Kopech to the rotation Vaughn/Abreu split 1B/DH Romy takes Leury's spot at utility Sign Chris Taylor 3/45 for 2b Sign Scherzer 3/112 the playoffs have shown us this team needs an ace. Resign Tepera 2/18 Edit: Conforto is a free agent! Nevermind I guess - nonetheless, I think packaging Crochet with Keuchel for a legit RF/2b threat is the right move to make. If we decide to keep Kimbrel, then he should be the closer and Hendriks should be the guy who comes in during the highest leverage situations with runners on base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: If we decide to keep Kimbrel, then he should be the closer and Hendriks should be the guy who comes in during the highest leverage situations with runners on base. Man would that be a shitty message to Hendricks. Sign him to be your closer, he does great, trade for a guy to be his setup man, and that guy sucks balls the entire time in multiple roles, then hand the closer role over to the guy that sucks because he might be better in the 9th than he is in the 8th(and this is not guaranteed) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If we decide to keep Kimbrel, then he should be the closer and Hendriks should be the guy who comes in during the highest leverage situations with runners on base. Say what? Kimbrel is not reliable. There is no guarantee he is anything but shaky next year. The guy should not be handed the closers job. I really don't understand this at all. What Kimbrel showed was not an aberration; it's what he had shown the previous two years before the 35 innings with the Cubs recently. The Sox having 32 million tied up in two relievers would be one of the dumbest decisions this organization has made and that is really saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, RibbieRubarb said: Eloy Jimenez could be this year's Carlos Lee. Discuss. No way I sell low on him after this year. The guy had a big time injury. He still has 40 hr potential. Give him an offseason to get right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Get all these guys to work on their launch angles is priority #1, RF #1-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 There is absolutely no way this team can keep Kimbrel. Who the hell is going to trade for him? The guy has negative value with that contract atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I love how caufield pivots off one incorrect point and just pretends... well my point still stands with the other guy too. For the record, I think lux is overrated as a prospect and will not figure it out and become a good big leaguer. Kind of like how you were wrong on Kopech, Cease and Hosmer getting benched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Get all these guys to work on their launch angles is priority #1, RF #1-B Edited October 13, 2021 by ron883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Kind of like how you were wrong on Kopech, Cease and Hosmer getting benched? What was I wrong about exactly? And again pal, Hosmer wasn't delegated to the bench BECAUSE of injuries for the Padres. Hosmer - 151 games player, ZERO fWAR. That's Caufields guy; stans for him as if he was Frank Thomas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ron883 said: The White Sox were 3rd in baseball in wRC+. This is a classic example of confirmation bias in statistical analysis. The Sox had a better wRC+ than every team on that list but for Houston and Toronto. They're problem was not offensive production or hitting the ball in the air. If guys like Eloy hit less grounders would he have been better? Sure. Is the offense some glaring issue that needs mass overhaul and correction? No, if the Sox are 3rd or better in wRC+ next year they'll be very good. Saying those teams advanced in the playoffs because they hit more flyball is fucking hilarious and incredible misleading as always. People who look at baseball statistics have a difficult time understanding that correlation does not equal causation. Edited October 13, 2021 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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