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8 minutes ago, wegner said:

I really could do without this Fox crew trying to rehabilitate the image of these Astro Asshats here in the 9th.  Just leave it at they cheated to win 2017 and Congratulations to Atlanta...or just say nothing at all.

Yep, it was annoying af

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7 minutes ago, wegner said:

I really could do without this Fox crew trying to rehabilitate the image of these Astro Asshats here in the 9th.  Just leave it at they cheated to win 2017 and Congratulations to Atlanta...or just say nothing at all.

Trying to say a kind word about the losers when it becomes inevitable.  Announcers do it all the time, but it's not appropriate here.  I'm feeling better now.

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I do not understand… why are they showing the Braves and talking to all their players?

Clearly, it would be much more enjoyable for the FOX viewers to see only footage of the dejected assBlows.

They should go ask Correa and Alboove about cheating.

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1 hour ago, Dan of Steel said:

Not that I don't relish in the Trashtros suffering, but it does frustrate the living hell out of me that literally every single acquisition made mid-season for the Braves pulled through for them, while it seemed like almost every single acquisition we made mid-season were duds. 

It's the unexplained in baseball.  Dodgers got Scherzer and it didn't work out too well. 

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Pretty sad in the 10 team playoff scheme the team with the 12th best record in baseball is "World Champion". The owners will want to expand this to 16 + teams.

MLB should contract 6 teams, return to OG format of no Divisions, balanced schedule (14 games X 11 Teams = 154 game schedule).

Sole postseason and interleague games = World Series & ASG. 14 off days plus 3 day ASG break (M-W). Total calendar days 171. Seven Game World Series. 

Opening Day Friday, April 2, 2021

Final Day Sunday September 19, 2021

World Series Tampa Bay (100-62) @ San Francisco (107-55) September 21 & 22; 28 & 29. San Francisco (107-55) @ Tampa Bay (100-62) September 24, 25, 26.

 

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8 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Pretty sad in the 10 team playoff scheme the team with the 12th best record in baseball is "World Champion". The owners will want to expand this to 16 + teams.

MLB should contract 6 teams, return to OG format of no Divisions, balanced schedule (14 games X 11 Teams = 154 game schedule).

Sole postseason and interleague games = World Series & ASG. 14 off days plus 3 day ASG break (M-W). Total calendar days 171. Seven Game World Series. 

Opening Day Friday, April 2, 2021

Final Day Sunday September 19, 2021

World Series Tampa Bay (100-62) @ San Francisco (107-55) September 21 & 22; 28 & 29. San Francisco (107-55) @ Tampa Bay (100-62) September 24, 25, 26.

 

No.  You will destroy baseball in the bottom 12-15 markets…

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17 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Pretty sad in the 10 team playoff scheme the team with the 12th best record in baseball is "World Champion". The owners will want to expand this to 16 + teams.

MLB should contract 6 teams, return to OG format of no Divisions, balanced schedule (14 games X 11 Teams = 154 game schedule).

Sole postseason and interleague games = World Series & ASG. 14 off days plus 3 day ASG break (M-W). Total calendar days 171. Seven Game World Series. 

Opening Day Friday, April 2, 2021

Final Day Sunday September 19, 2021

World Series Tampa Bay (100-62) @ San Francisco (107-55) September 21 & 22; 28 & 29. San Francisco (107-55) @ Tampa Bay (100-62) September 24, 25, 26.

 

I actually like this. Won't happen, but the less teams in the playoffs, the better. If the owners turn MLB into the NBA and NHL, they will ruin the sport. Fans should boycott by the millions if this happens.

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1 hour ago, NWINFan said:

I actually like this. Won't happen, but the less teams in the playoffs, the better. If the owners turn MLB into the NBA and NHL, they will ruin the sport. Fans should boycott by the millions if this happens.

Had season tickets a long time for the NHL, but gave them up a few years after they switched to the NBA conference style format, eliminating in large part the interdivision rivalries which played out across multiple years within each division. The regular season is largely meaningless in hockey if your team can play above .500.

The NFL gives a significant advantage to the best 2-4 teams in the season. The favorite in the NBA generally wins out in a seven game series. MLB and NHL playoffs are more of a crapshoot. If half or more teams make the playoffs, it renders the regular season by and large irrelevant, as long as you can scrape along at or slightly over .500. At least in hockey, teams play two months to sort out the six month season. In baseball, teams play a single month to sort out a six month season.

In the Pennant Era (1903-1968), there were only two instances (post expansion in 1962 and 1964) where a team with the 4th best record in MLB won a World Series, and only five other instances where the team with the 3rd best record across both leagues won the World Series. All other WS champions either had the best record in baseball, or the second best record in baseball.

In the Division Era (1969-1993), the average WS winner had the 3rd best record across MLB, with only three teams having a worse than 4th best MLB record (the sixth best 1980 Philadelphia Phillies and 1985 Kansas City Royals, and the fucking worthless ninth best 1987 Minnesota Twins).

In the Wild Card Era (1995-2021), 8 of 27 (29.6%) of WS winners weren't even good enough to win their division. WS winners include

  • 1997 Wild Card Marlins defeated the 9th best AL team (Cleveland)
  • 2000 NY Yankees (9th best) defeated the Wild Card Mets 
  • 2002 Wild Card Anaheim defeated Wild Card Giants
  • 2003 Wild Card Marlins (7th best record)
  • 2004 Wild Card Boston
  • 2006 Saint Louis wins with the 13th best record (83-79), by far the weakest "World Champion" in the history of baseball, among the worst of any sport ever.
  • 2011 Wild Card Saint Louis (8th best record)
  • 2014 Wild Card Giants (8th best) over Wild Card Royals (7th best)
  • 2019 Wild Card Nationals (8th best)
  • 2021 Atlanta Braves (12th best team)

If the owners cram down a 14-16 playoff format, Jerry will call Hahn into his office and say "Why did you win 92 games last year, we spent to much, cut $40M and win 83 for a playoff birth. You rested guys the second half anyway, and the playoffs are nothing but a get hot one month crap shoot."

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12 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Had season tickets a long time for the NHL, but gave them up a few years after they switched to the NBA conference style format, eliminating in large part the interdivision rivalries which played out across multiple years within each division. The regular season is largely meaningless in hockey if your team can play above .500.

The NFL gives a significant advantage to the best 2-4 teams in the season. The favorite in the NBA generally wins out in a seven game series. MLB and NHL playoffs are more of a crapshoot. If half or more teams make the playoffs, it renders the regular season by and large irrelevant, as long as you can scrape along at or slightly over .500. At least in hockey, teams play two months to sort out the six month season. In baseball, teams play a single month to sort out a six month season.

In the Pennant Era (1903-1968), there were only two instances (post expansion in 1962 and 1964) where a team with the 4th best record in MLB won a World Series, and only five other instances where the team with the 3rd best record across both leagues won the World Series. All other WS champions either had the best record in baseball, or the second best record in baseball.

In the Division Era (1969-1993), the average WS winner had the 3rd best record across MLB, with only three teams having a worse than 4th best MLB record (the sixth best 1980 Philadelphia Phillies and 1985 Kansas City Royals, and the fucking worthless ninth best 1987 Minnesota Twins).

In the Wild Card Era (1995-2021), 8 of 27 (29.6%) of WS winners weren't even good enough to win their division. WS winners include

  • 1997 Wild Card Marlins defeated the 9th best AL team (Cleveland)
  • 2000 NY Yankees (9th best) defeated the Wild Card Mets 
  • 2002 Wild Card Anaheim defeated Wild Card Giants
  • 2003 Wild Card Marlins (7th best record)
  • 2004 Wild Card Boston
  • 2006 Saint Louis wins with the 13th best record (83-79), by far the weakest "World Champion" in the history of baseball, among the worst of any sport ever.
  • 2011 Wild Card Saint Louis (8th best record)
  • 2014 Wild Card Giants (8th best) over Wild Card Royals (7th best)
  • 2019 Wild Card Nationals (8th best)
  • 2021 Atlanta Braves (12th best team)

If the owners cram down a 14-16 playoff format, Jerry will call Hahn into his office and say "Why did you win 92 games last year, we spent to much, cut $40M and win 83 for a playoff birth. You rested guys the second half anyway, and the playoffs are nothing but a get hot one month crap shoot."

Given your outlook—why have a World Series at all?  Why allow the “second best team” to be crowned “World Champions” when you could just anoint the “best team” based on the regular season?

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45 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

Given your outlook—why have a World Series at all?  Why allow the “second best team” to be crowned “World Champions” when you could just anoint the “best team” based on the regular season?

Because the best team in a league of  8-10 teams each is a good season test. A format where over half the teams can be crowned "World Champions" going a few games over in October, after a mediocre 83-88 win season like TLR's pathetic Cardinal team or this year's shitty Atlanta team makes the entire season a farce.

If you don't see or have a problem with a meaningless 162 game season, you'll love the shit the owners have in store. Enjoy the never ending RSN fee increases and 81 game exhibition season ticket purchases.

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The concept of the best team being the champions has been gone from US sports for at least 50 years. Playoffs make money so they're here to stay and are never going to get smaller.

If you really, really want to reduce the chance of a sub-90 win team being crowned champions, the best you could get that might work would be a hybrid of the European soccer League/Cup format.

Example: At the end of the 2022 season, the top 16 teams qualify for the 2023 playoff tournament. During the 2023 season, there are three 7-10 day breaks built in at various points to hold playoff tournament series to play down to the final two. At the end of the 2023 season, the top two teams, excluding the two remaining in the playoff tournament, join the two remaining playoff tournament teams for the rest of the playoff tournament, with what is now a semifinal and the final (World Series) round.

I'm sure there are reasons I'm thinking of that MLB would never go for this, but this would be a way to keep the larger number of playoff games yet reduce the chance a sub-90 win team wins the World Series.

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