NWINFan Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I hope Guillen gets the Padres job. Everybody deserves another chance. Or most anyway. For the White Sox fans and the organization, it is time to move on. The lone White Sox WS win in 102 years happened 16 going on 17 years ago. LaRussa will leave eventually and there is no need to replace him with Guillen. Guillen is not the only person who can manage a baseball team. And I really don't think that the White Sox is a good fit for Guillen. He just has too much baggage. He needs to get a truly fresh start elsewhere and learn from his past mistakes. The first thing he should do is keep his sons out of the clubhouse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Ozzie with the Padres might be the worst fit imaginable, which means I hope it happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 hours ago, greg775 said: Please, please please baseball gods, give Ozzie the Pods' job. Certainly he's been humbled by what went down in Miami. They could and should have a clause in his contract regarding his behavior in terms of public comments. Now we all have freedom of speech in the USA, but the Pods could add a clause saying he can be terminated without pay if the organization deems any of his statements to the press detrimental to the organization as determined by a committee of select individuals to be chosen after Ozzie's firing. lmao. Have you watched Ozzie at all since he got canned? Humbled, no. Smarter? Maybe. 14 hours ago, ron883 said: It's a national tragedy that the guy isn't a manager anymore. PC nerds that have never played baseball want him out of the game. Yes, the PC nerds known as checks notes Miami Cubans that fled the Castro regime and notoriously hate PC politics. Find a new slant. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Ozzie with the Padres might be the worst fit imaginable, which means I hope it happens. Pre-2005 Ozzie is perfect for that team. Post-2005, when a team loaded with under-performing highly paid veterans needs highly heralded prospects to come up and perform: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 3:34 PM, bmags said: Overall, managers don't matter really. Have you watched Tony La Russa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, shago said: Have you watched Tony La Russa? I know you all believe that any quality of a team, anything that happens, ultimately is attributed to the manager. I disagree. It's so weird how Tampa and Boston have had all these great managers, isn't it? So crazy that the Astros are just dominant despite hinch not being there. I mean...boy, Gabe Kapler over there in San Francisco, sheesh, he must be an amazing manager. Definitely we learned that when you put him on a team, good things happen. Joe Girardi man. That guy, what he did with those young Yankees teams, Boone couldn't have done that. I bet if you put him on another talented team he'd definitely get the most out of em. And sheesh, TLR. You take that guy out of St Louis, good luck ever making another world series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, bmags said: I know you all believe that any quality of a team, anything that happens, ultimately is attributed to the manager. I disagree. It's so weird how Tampa and Boston have had all these great managers, isn't it? So crazy that the Astros are just dominant despite hinch not being there. I mean...boy, Gabe Kapler over there in San Francisco, sheesh, he must be an amazing manager. Definitely we learned that when you put him on a team, good things happen. Joe Girardi man. That guy, what he did with those young Yankees teams, Boone couldn't have done that. I bet if you put him on another talented team he'd definitely get the most out of em. And sheesh, TLR. You take that guy out of St Louis, good luck ever making another world series. Ok, so if I grant you that managers don't have dramatic impact on a franchise winning over the long-term, will you grant that multiple boneheaded managerial decisions can have a very negative impact in a 5 game series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Can you imagine the egos in that clubhouse between Machado, FTJ, and Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, shago said: Have you watched Tony La Russa? Tony has lost all credibility with me. I was a big fan of the move to bring him aboard, although I would have been OK with the team jettisoning him after news of the second DUI came out. Tony had a full month to think about the playoffs. I thought he would magically lead this young club to the title. Instead the Sox got smoked. Considering the quick flameout, RR shoulda been allowed to manage the team another year. Tony has quickly agreed to the new baseball norm of only using a starter 2 or three innings. And he's OK with the lift and pull offensive strategy. HR or K is fine with him. Disappointing. He's just another guy, nothing special IMO. Edited October 28, 2021 by greg775 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Padres say they might not have a manager in place by the GM meetings 11/8. That must mean either Ozzie didn't wow them or he isn't interested. It would be interesting to see what Ozzie would say when Preller handed him a line up. Article complaining about Preller. Complaints seem familiar. He has missed on his last two managers. He has made Padres fans go through another rebuild after failing an attempt to build a winner with a bunch of splashy additions in 2015. He then failed to upgrade the rotation at this year’s trade deadline when it was obvious it needed help. Edited October 28, 2021 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Bob Melvin to padres https://www.mlb.com/news/padres-hire-bob-melvin-as-manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: Bob Melvin to padres https://www.mlb.com/news/padres-hire-bob-melvin-as-manager Someone on Twitter said that the A’s are going to slash payroll even further and go with a low cost bare bones squad next year. I bet they look at Rick Renteria to replace Bob Melvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: Someone on Twitter said that the A’s are going to slash payroll even further and go with a low cost bare bones squad next year. I bet they look at Rick Renteria to replace Bob Melvin. That someone is assuming there’s no minimum payroll in the next CBA and even the owners seem to think it’s coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: That someone is assuming there’s no minimum payroll in the next CBA and even the owners seem to think it’s coming. I just realized that someone was Bobert Nightengale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Brilliant hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Brilliant hire. Yup, but even with that they still have the Dodgers and Giants in their division, so it won’t be easy even if he does everything possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 15 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Yup, but even with that they still have the Dodgers and Giants in their division, so it won’t be easy even if he does everything possible. That's if you believe the Giants are built to last and/or Kapler/Faidi are superhuman...tons of vets and expiring deals the next year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That's if you believe the Giants are built to last and/or Kapler/Faidi are superhuman...tons of vets and expiring deals the next year or two. After this season? I’ll believe that the Giants can’t do it once someone takes the division away from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 20 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Bob Melvin to padres https://www.mlb.com/news/padres-hire-bob-melvin-as-manager Oh, please Oakland hire Ozzie. That would be entertaining beyond belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said: Oh, please Oakland hire Ozzie. That would be entertaining beyond belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie’s Cuban Cigar Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 6:31 PM, greg775 said: Please, please please baseball gods, give Ozzie the Pods' job. Certainly he's been humbled by what went down in Miami. They could and should have a clause in his contract regarding his behavior in terms of public comments. Now we all have freedom of speech in the USA, but the Pods could add a clause saying he can be terminated without pay if the organization deems any of his statements to the press detrimental to the organization as determined by a committee of select individuals to be chosen after Ozzie's firing. No “we DONT ALL have freedom of speech in the USA”. Isn’t that right Facebook and Twitter ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ozzie’s Cuban Cigar said: No “we DONT ALL have freedom of speech in the USA”. Isn’t that right Facebook and Twitter ? Uh, oh, there goes this thread down the drain. The Padres also interviewed Rojas, the former Mets' manager. Interestingly, no Espada. Eventually, Carlos Beltran is going to get another shot, somewhere. Maybe with the A's, although that would be a really tough gig. That said, expectations would be almost zero at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Park Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 7:11 PM, Kyyle23 said: Bob Melvin to padres https://www.mlb.com/news/padres-hire-bob-melvin-as-manager He's just the kind of guy that i wanted for the White Sox instead of LaRussa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Ozzie’s Cuban Cigar said: No “we DONT ALL have freedom of speech in the USA”. Isn’t that right Facebook and Twitter ? You don't get to say whatever you want wherever you want because of freedom of speech. That applies here too 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Ozzie’s Cuban Cigar said: No “we DONT ALL have freedom of speech in the USA”. Isn’t that right Facebook and Twitter ? Freedom of Speech applies to the government, not the private sector. I wish more people understood this. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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