poppysox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Yes but public sentiment is what is going to make this a big story. Flores wasn't the first coach asked to do this, and probably wasn't in the first 20. So are there a bunch of $100,000 deposits in his bank account? If the story is true there must be a paper trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, poppysox said: So are there a bunch of $100,000 deposits in his bank account? If the story is true there must be a paper trail. He claims he can back that up. If he has something that does show it, the NFL will never let that case get to discovery where he might have to produce documents or witnesses, they'll settle it beforehand with a non-disclosure agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I feel like there was a lawsuit filed against some league along these lines but I can't find it on Google. Am I crossing this up with another lawsuit filed by gamblers? Are you thinking of wrestling admitting it was a pre scripted entertainment event to avoid sports regulations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 One thing they can do that is never mentioned with the draft is make it like a fantasy draft for at least the first 2 or 4 rounds. You have the first pick overall, you get the last pick in round 2. in the NFL, that would be a huge deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, poppysox said: So are there a bunch of $100,000 deposits in his bank account? If the story is true there must be a paper trail. He refused the offer, but they claim to have proof so the trail is something else. I believe Hue Jackson said that the browns owner was making or trying to make donations to Jacksons non profit organization so that trail is probably a little clearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Well, at least this is moving things forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 Gee, that's some phrasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: This is actually a really mature thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Wait, the side that has shown the least flexibility is calling for a mediator? The side that waited how many days to make a proposal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: This is actually a really mature thing to do. It's most likely a tactic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: One thing they can do that is never mentioned with the draft is make it like a fantasy draft for at least the first 2 or 4 rounds. You have the first pick overall, you get the last pick in round 2. in the NFL, that would be a huge deal. Fuck just make it pure auction for the first round, that would be amazing. Every team can nominate a player and then everybody bids from their allotted bonus pool. Can you imagine how fun and awesome that would be? And it will never happen because it will cost the owners too much money. The 1st round of the MLB draft would be must watch TV in an auction format imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Gee, that's some phrasing. I like it! No point in postponing the inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, poppysox said: I like it! No point in postponing the inevitable. Well maybe the mediator can get the sides together MORE THAN 4 TIMES IN 8 WEEKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Well maybe the mediator can get the sides together MORE THAN 4 TIMES IN 8 WEEKS! Probably more like 4 times each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, poppysox said: Probably more like 4 times each week. You keep saying stuff like that, where is your evidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wow. Fucking ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You keep saying stuff like that, where is your evidence. I have no evidence...just wishful thinking. However, mediation does speed up the process in all cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Apparently, the owners feel the players have been unreasonable in their negotiations. I know some of you think the players are the ones giving but I think if you ask for lots of ridiculous stuff and then give up a little...that's just posturing. The mediation process attempts to cut through the monkey business and gets both sides talking realistically. The mediator is in theory an impartial facilitator who keeps talks moving in an attempt to resolve conflicts. If mediation doesn't work we are in for a long frustrating summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Shitbags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, poppysox said: Apparently, the owners feel the players have been unreasonable in their negotiations. I know some of you think the players are the ones giving but I think if you ask for lots of ridiculous stuff and then give up a little...that's just posturing. The mediation process attempts to cut through the monkey business and gets both sides talking realistically. The mediator is in theory an impartial facilitator who keeps talks moving in an attempt to resolve conflicts. If mediation doesn't work we are in for a long frustrating summer. We both understand that both sides make ridiculous offers and counter offers, but the owners have been refusing to counter. They aren't even negotiating, just saying no. I hope the mediation remedies this also, but it just feels like a stalling tactic to draw this out more and that really sucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 The owners are human scum. Not all of them, but collectively they are. They are a cynical, greedy and overly prideful group used to getting their way even if they have to run someone over to get there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 It could get resolved but for posturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, poppysox said: Apparently, the owners feel the players have been unreasonable in their negotiations. I know some of you think the players are the ones giving but I think if you ask for lots of ridiculous stuff and then give up a little...that's just posturing. The mediation process attempts to cut through the monkey business and gets both sides talking realistically. The mediator is in theory an impartial facilitator who keeps talks moving in an attempt to resolve conflicts. If mediation doesn't work we are in for a long frustrating summer. The party that didn't bother talking for six weeks is being unreasonable. Sounds reasonable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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